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Tall Oaks’ Developers Need to Make Community Contributions, Planning Commission Says

by Karen Goff July 15, 2016 at 10:00 am 12 Comments

 After a lengthy public hearing on Thursday, the Fairfax County Planning Commission voted to defer decision on Tall Oaks’ Village Center’s redevelopment until next week.

The main issues are development conditions that the county staff has recommended but to which developer Jefferson Apartment Group (JAG) has not agreed. Reston Association, meanwhile, wants JAG to pay for specific improvements to the nearby Tall Oaks Pool.

After more than a year and 42 meetings with the county, RA and the community, JAG plans to redevelop the mostly empty village center into 156 residences (44 townhomes; 42 two-over-two townhomes and 70 multi-family units in two buildings); 5,809 square feet of office; and 8,584 square feet of retail.

In the 15 months since first presenting its plan to residents — many of whom were upset that the village center would morph from retail to mostly residential — JAG has made changes. Among them: adding green space; more than doubling the amount of its retail proposal; adding a community gathering place,  and recreational amenities such as outdoor fitness stations for senior citizens and a children’s play area that incorporates natural elements.

RA CEO Cate Fulkerson called out those amenities in her testimony to to the planning commission on Thursday.

“This plan is not ready for your approval,” she told the board. “It does not address leisure and recreation facilities for 156 new families. … The applicant only provides recreation facilities for young children and older adults.”

Fulkerson said RA has asked JAG for contributions for improvements to the Tall Oaks Pool, which is located across North Shore Drive from the new development. Fulkerson said the pool needs ADA (Americans With Disability Act) accessibility upgrades, improvements to the parking lot, the addition of bike racks, and improvements to the underpass that connects Tall Oaks to the pool area.

“Thus far, the applicant has not agreed to assist with the improvements,” she said.

Mark Looney, the land use attorney representing JAG, said the purchase of an office building at Tall Oaks (where additional retail will be located) was a financial stretch for the developer. JAG cannot commit the money at this time, but is open to more conversation with RA about future improvements, he said.

The 156 households at the new Tall Oaks will be RA members and will eventually add more than $100,000 annually in RA assessments, he added.

The developer has also declined to make the planning staff recommended contribution to Fairfax County Public Schools. The staff report says the new Tall Oaks should net about 57 new students (33 elementary, 8 middle and 16 high school). Staff recommends a contribution of $669,693 (57 students x $11,749).

JAG says it is declining to make the school contribution because 1) the school system was offered land to build a new school when Tall Oaks was first developed and eventually returned the land rights; and 2) the site was zoned as a shopping center in 1969 and a schools contribution was not required.

JAG has also declined the staff report’s recommendation of a $20,000 contribution to offset impact to Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Station 25 on Wiehle Avenue.

“Approval of multiple new developments in one fire station’s response area could significantly impact that station’s availability and overall response times to all emergency incidents,” the staff report reads. “FRD requests the cost of two preemption devices ($20,000) for traffic signals located along the primary travel route from the closest fire station to the proposed development. The applicants have declined to provide a contribution.”

Looney said JAG would be amenable to making the contribution to fire and rescue.

The planning commission also had concerns about driveway lengths on the garage townhomes (which may result in insufficient parking) and a traffic count that could be misleading because it was conducting on a snowy day in winter, when many commuters may have stayed home.

Meanwhile, three of the intersections along Wiehle Avenue (at Isaac Newton Square, Roger Bacon and Sunset Hills)  have been given a service level grade of “F” during morning and evening rush hours, a Fairfax County Department of Transportation official said.

While some residents have voiced concern that adding 156 homes will further clog an already congested Wiehle Avenue, Looney said they should not compare traffic to current conditions since the village center is only 13 percent occupied.

“When you have a vacant shopping center, any amount of change is gonna be change,” he said.

He said the operational analysis showed a residential development would actually result in fewer vehicle trips than a fully occupied village center.

The planning commission will make its recommendations July 21. If recommended for approval, it will then go before the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors on July 26.

  • vdiv

    Not keen on the 2 over 2 condos. They are terrible and we have gobs of them in unincorporated Herndon. Should just build townhouses, some smaller like the ones at Mosaic, they are kinda cool.

    • GB

      Why are they terrible? Seens like they must be popular there are lots and they are building more.

      • Chuck Morningwood

        Have you ever lived in one of them? It’s not so bad if you’re on the ground floor.

        We looked at several such units, in Herndon, Centreville and Arcola. They really don’t breathe well, especially if they’re built four to a block (windows on only one side of each unit).

        • Mike M

          Arcola? wow! I remember when. . .

      • vdiv

        If you are on bottom level, your unit doesn’t get much sun or daylight, you get all kinds of leaks from the unit above and you get to listen to their footsteps and their cars. If you are on the top unit you get to climb stairs and haul everything up and down all the time, you get all the smells from your neighbors downstairs and you feel guilty because you know they hear every noise you make. Also your unit upstairs becomes difficult and expensive to cool in the summer and heat in the winter.
        If you own your vertical space as in a townhouse at least you have some control over all of this.

        • Greg

          Makes sense, but why is the top floor harder to keep warm and cool?

          • vdiv

            More sun, more wind, extra outside wall/rooftop.

    • Several of the 2+2 condos in the Reston Town Center…West Market.

  • Nyla J.

    Yay! More houses with more people with more cars using more resources in Reston! I love how crowded it is already!

    • JoeInReston

      Just add more apartment buildings, don’t worry about road infrastructure, it will all work out just fine.

  • Greg

    Interesting to see that RA is pushing to upgrade the TO pool that has, twice, been recommended for closure.

  • Guest

    Perhaps RA would have some extra scratch for improvements to the pool otherwise recommneded for closure, has it not gone ahead with the purchase of you-know-what?

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