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Candidates for North Point Director on RA Board Clash in Public Forum

by Dave Emke — March 9, 2017 at 11:30 am 110 Comments

North Point candidates forum

Arlene Krieger and John Mooney, the two candidates in the race for the North Point seat on the Reston Association Board of Directors, made their cases Wednesday during a candidate forum at the Lake House.

The venue itself was a major topic of discussion during the event. The Lake House has been the subject of a great deal of community debate since its controversial purchase and costly renovation by Reston Association.

Krieger, a longtime community activist, said Reston Association’s board should have recognized from the start that it lacked the expertise to make such a deal.

“It is very, very foolish to initiate a plan when you have no idea what you’re doing and you don’t even know that you have no idea what you’re doing,” she said. “This thing should never have been taken on by this particular group of people. We need to recruit from the community experts who know what they’re doing, [and] we need to include them from the first day anything is planned.”

Mooney, a senior manager in Arlington County for 17 years, said major deals such as the Lake House purchase require an ability to do proper analysis from the get-go.

“[It’s about] making sure that we have the analytic capacity within Reston Association to deal with complex issues, to do upfront, thorough investigation of the issues so that we don’t make false starts and big mistakes,” he said. “We need that both for the renovations and the programming for income, we need advice on both of those.”

John MooneyMooney made similar statements when asked about the Lake Newport soccer field renovation project, which has been tabled indefinitely by the RA board after strong outcry from the community.

“When a community process becomes very divisive, so that fruitful dialogue can’t occur, the board needs to decisively and quickly stop the process,” he said. “We need careful and thorough analysis of complex proposals before endorsing them. … I think that could have been analyzed better, and to me it indicates an improvement the Association can make.”

Krieger said the community has “totally and completely made up its mind” on the soccer project, and RA stumbled out of the starting blocks by not including them in the discussion from Day One.

“The mistake Reston Association made again is that they started a project 10 months before the community and the affected parties knew about the project,” she said. “They once again underestimated the power of the community, and that’s why they got themselves again in so much trouble.”

Krieger said the community should always be involved from the outset of a project, and that she would work to create an ad hoc telecommunications committee in the attempt to better that communication. While Mooney agreed that community dialogue is important, he said it’s also important to remember that some projects need to be vetted before involving residents.

“[The community wants] the board to winnow issues down, to structure issues, so the community doesn’t waste time,” he said. “Then you engage the community fruitfully, otherwise the community becomes frustrated and will walk away from the whole process.”

Both Krieger and Mooney have been involved in the fight against redevelopment at St. Johns Wood, though that was a source of disagreement for them in Wednesday’s forum. Mooney cited his work on a critical analysis of the proposal that helped bring it to a stop; Krieger, though, said Mooney didn’t do as much as he claims.

Arlene Krieger“The reports were a composite of everyone else’s research,” she said. “The only original thing that John did [was when] I assigned John to do a traffic study at the Sept. 14 meeting. I figured out how to get this before the Board of Directors, nobody else could figure that out.”

Mooney said he was “astounded” by Krieger’s claims.

“What I did was not a composite of other people’s work,” he said. “It was the result of 80 hours-plus of careful analysis of the Reston Master Plan and the Fairfax County Comprehensive Plan and identifying in very particular, quantified ways how this did not comply with the Reston Master Plan.”

The candidates also answered questions on assessment rates, transparency, potential golf course redevelopment and more. The forum can be viewed in full on the Reston Association YouTube channel.

The candidate who wins the race will serve the remaining two years of a term being vacated by Dannielle LaRosa, who announced in December she would step down. Voting will continue through April 3.

Candidate forums in the races for the Hunters Woods/Dogwood District and an At-Large seat will take place tonight, at 6:30 and 7:30 p.m. respectively, at RA Headquarters (12001 Sunrise Valley Drive).

  • Donald

    It was a sad state of affairs. While one individual obviously has the demeanor and the credentials to go forward, I am concerned neither are ready for the RA board.

    • Donald

      And a side note: There are the infamous yellow Public Hearing signs at locations all around Hidden Creek CC. I have not walked up to read one yet. Would anyone know what the topic is?

      • Moon Lotus

        I hope its not a water fight. Ugh,,, where to begin,,,

      • John Farrell

        Those signs are notice of the meeting about the elimination of on street parking on North Shore Drive.

        • Donald

          Thanks. As you can see, I’m probably overreacting, but the possible development of Hidden Creek concerns me greatly.

          This latest county proposal to add a street across the golf course property just frightens me. I’ve learned over the years, anything is possible when the county an developers collaborate without the rest of us.

          I hope the Community is diligent, and proactive when it comes to protecting this treasured open area.

          • MakeRestonBetter

            Donald, those boards are to announce the meetings regarding the design of infrastructure to protect all road users. It doesn’t necessarily require elimination of on-street parking, but invites people to come and discuss the options and see the proposed designs. The Bicycle Master Plan is part of the Comprehensive Plan, so anytime VDOT proposes repaving, the County DOT staff looks to see whether more of the BMP can be implemented. As for the Hidden Creek “road”, it’s an artifact left over from earlier maps. RA Board has directed staff to take the lead on eliminating it from ANY map since it is supposed to be OFF the table. Now it is up to Supervisor Hudgins to follow through representing Reston Association residents in a manner that our elected Board has demanded on behalf of the 60,000 of us. We need to make sure we lay blame for the development/traffic issues where it belongs. RA Board can direct senior staff to represent us in a particular fashion with a particular point of view, but it is Supervisor Hudgins who can actually make things happen or not.

          • Donald

            Thanks MRG. I remember North Shore being discussed as a candidate for lane marking, etc., to promote safe bicycling. I hope it is successful.

            I also agree with you regarding Supervisor Hudgins and I believe it is important we make sure she follows through. RA has taken the initiative, the Community needs to put some visible support behind it.

            Hidden Creek CC is vulnerable to redevelopment, we’ve seen what’s possible via RNGC. I really believe the community should be doing it’s homework now, and getting prepared.

            It is possible RA, the Community, will have to step up and purchase the property down the road. We should be broaching those conversations now. RA committed in public it would be willing to purchase RNGC if necessary. The same should be said regarding HCCC.

            Donald

          • Bernie Supporter

            This is a classic case of “Not In My Backyard.” I empathize with the challenges you face, and appreciate how you understand how we are all “vulnerable” to redevelopment that robs us of what we enjoy. Anyone who wants RA and the Community to step up on their behalf, in my opinion, is obligated to step up on behalf of other Restonians facing the same vulnerabilities. This is the biggest reason not to support Mooney. If past performance is any indication of future results, he will take the path of least resistance — go along to get along — and will negotiate away everything you love about your neighborhood. Don’t shoot yourself in the foot.

    • Moon Lotus

      Thanks Donald, for sharing your insights.

      In a public forum like this creativity counts. Attacks on other candidates and denouncing their efforts are usually perceived as a sign of weakness. I wonder whether Kriegers negativity outweighed her creativity, how did you see it?

      No need to answer, its not my district. Just curious. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/75dd27c3930465e5a70ec35c9d633066b2b260d60390cc93ec8853f69bc1753e.jpg

      • Donald

        I’m sorry to say, I was underwhelmed by Ms. Krieger. Perhaps she will improve with experience.

        Mr. Money certainly had the poise and knowledge, but he came across a tad weak. Perhaps he’ll get better as time passes.

        When both were asked about Reston National, neither of them even mentioned Hidden Creek. Perhaps it’s because it’s not in their district.

        Neither hit home runs with me.

        • Moon Lotus

          Thanks

      • Bernie Supporter

        Interesting how facts are considered “negativity.” I wonder whether Ms. Krieger’s “negativity” is more just her threat to the Reston Association as not wanting to do business as usual. And I’m not sure I believe you when you say its not your district. Because this debate was almost an hour long. That’s a LOT of curiosity.

  • Steve

    I attended last nights forum and was frankly shocked by how different the candidates were.

    Mr. Mooney came across as professional, gave concise, thoughtful answers and has a significant background in urban planning. While he’s just recently moved to Reston, he was knowledgeable about local issues. He seems like he would be an upgrade to the current RA BOD.

    Ms. Krieger unfortunately was poorly prepared and gave rambling answers that she couldn’t keep within the allotted speaking times. Worse, she came across as abrasive, bordering on obnoxious, and as a know it all despite have limited knowledge on topics she should be familiar with (e.g. Reston Soccer’s Lake Newport proposal). Lastly, she launched a personal attack on Mr. Mooney that I found appalling. Net net, if you like Trump you will love Ms. Krieger.

    This election isn’t a close call. Vote for Mr. Mooney.

    • Bernie Supporter

      What you call professional, I call dispassionate. If Ms. Krieger gave rambling answers, good. It meant they weren’t canned. Moreover, since both candidates couldn’t stay within their allotted time, but you one call out Ms. Krieger for it, it tells me that your whole post is slanted. And you know what they say. if you can’t trust the messenger, you can’t trust the message.

      • The Constitutionalist

        Did you attend or watch?

  • TRS

    I voted for her (online ballot) because she’s the only woman running.

    • Irwin Flashman

      A poor reason to vote for someone. A good reason would be that the person is the most qualified, knowledgeable, and likely to listen to what constituents have to say and provide reasoned responses that are based on facts.. She is not the only woman on the ballot. Two women are running for the Hunters Woods/Dogwood seat. One woman is running for the At-Large seat.

      • Bernie Supporter

        A poor reason to vote for someone? I don’t think so. I see what all the men on board have done … and I see a special waivers, and exceptions and perhaps even secret deals that have allowed developers to threaten North Point with overdevelopment. What I saw last night was a passionate person who would fight for people like me, and a dispassionate person who cloaked everything in deep analysis … and then comes up with the wrong conclusion. I don’t care if Ms. Krieger loses against SJW. But at least I know she will go down swinging on my behalf. I don’t get that from Mooney. To me, he looks like just another dispassionate suit who will be more invested in RA power than in RA membership power.

        • JoeInReston

          “I don’t think so. I see what all the men on board have done” …

          If only North Point had a female board of director when the Tetra purchase was up for approval…

          If only the Reston Association had female board of directors when the Tetra purchase was up for approval…

          If only Reston Association had a female CEO when Tetra was up for approval…

          Clearly the Y chromosome is at fault.

          • Bernie Supporter

            You said it, brother. I didn’t. But if you like Tetra and want more overdevelopment in North Point, vote for Mooney. I’ve gone with Krieger. (Oh, and if that female on the board at the time of Tetra was a former realtor — as Ms. Krieger said she was last night (a fact I didn’t previously know) — then, yeah, that more knowledgeable chromosome may have saved us a fiasco.

          • cRAzy

            It won’t matter who is on the Board, they won’t control development in North Point, County policies control that. And I think Mooney–as demonstrated by his SJW paper–knows a helluva lot more than Krieger about the topic if it comes up.

          • Bernie Supporter

            Strongly disagree. Mooney was late to the game. Stood on the shoulders of others. And exaggerated the role he played, where Ms. Krieger didn’t claim any credit for herself (though she deserved a lot of it, for being one of the three women who BEGAN the fight against SJW) … but instead insisted that the other people who worked so hard on this project and “Mooney’s work” be acknowledged and be given credit where it was due.

          • Donald

            Bernie, what will you, and Ms. Krieger, do to stop the development of Hidden Creek CC?

          • Bernie Supporter

            This isn’t in my district so I’m not on top of this as you are, but the situation as you have described it in the past does not sound good. So here’s what I would do … (and this is just my opinion): I believe the first step you can personally take is to enlist Ms. Krieger to be your advocate just as the leaders of the Soccer Field did. (The Soccer Field was the first place where I saw how really indecisive and posturing Mooney can be. He will NOT fight for you. He will negotiate away the things you hold most dear, and compromise when he doesn’t need to. He appears to be hardwired that way from so many years of public service.) The second thing you can do, again in my opinion, is Vote for Ms. Krieger. She has fought for me in SJW, fought for others against the Soccer Field, and will be a powerful force to fight on your side, as well, if she is in alignment with your issues. I saw something written about her that almost sounded like a slogan: Vote for Results, Not Resumes. I urge you and everyone else who wants to help fix what’s wrong with Reston — and wants to keep all the many wonderful things that are right with Reston — to vote for Ms. Krieger. Sorry, that’s all I got for you. But to me, this is the exact reason to vote for Ms. Krieger. When she fights hard for someone else it just looks like she’s fighting. When she fights for you, you see up close a champion who isn’t afraid of “how professional she looks”… She just does everything she can to win on your behalf. That’s why I want her on the Board.

          • Donald

            So, your response is — to just vote for Ms. Krieger?

            What would your (or Ms. Krieger’s) position be regarding Reston Association potentially purchasing the HCCC property to protect against development? (As they stressed they would do with RNGC.)

          • Reston2000

            Ha!! And the attorneys crafting and reviewing all these contracts for us? What is their gender?? smh

      • Eric McErlain

        When the residents of North Point needed guidance on how to push back against the Lake Newport Soccer Project, it was Arlene Krieger who shared some wise counsel on a path forward. And when the RA Board voted to indefinitely suspend the project, it was Arlene Krieger, along with At-Large Candidate Ven Iyer who stood with us to fight the project and left no room for anyone to doubt where they stood. They stood with us when others in Reston ignored our requests for help. That means they’ll both get my vote.

        • Steve

          Enjoy your deck Eric. Try not to think too hard about the 2000+ children who would benefit from the fields while sipping your Chardonnay.

          • restonista

            It’s not just about Chardonnay on the deck. It’s about real money and property values.

    • Mike M

      Sexist! Oh, wait! I forgot. That’s OK when done the other way around. Just like racism. Silly me.

      • Ugh

        I’m very liberal but I agree with you that voting for someone only because of their gender is foolish.

        • Bernie Supporter

          I agree, too. The reason to vote for Ms. Krieger isn’t because of her gender. Its because she will fight for North Point like nobody else. That’s all I care about. That said, I’m not too pleased with the waivers and exceptions the men at the RA and its committees have been handing out, which has led to my neighborhood being threatened. So yeah, I’d like to see another woman on the board. As a mother and grandmother, I think she’ll protect our neighborhoods better than a guy who thinks only with his “numbers”

          • Steve

            “Protect our neighborhoods”? What does that even mean? Hey, why not build a wall around Reston and just say “screw you” to anyone else who wants to look be here. Lot of that going around these days with the nut in The White House.

          • Bernie Supporter

            Hmmm. Could protect your neighborhoods possibly mean rallying the community, showing up at board meetings and demanding that developers abide by the rules of the Reston Master Plan & Deed? Fighting back against an RA system if communication that gave the people of SJW something like 48 hours notice of the RDB meeting that rubber stamped Bozzutto’s non-conforming redevelopment plan — a meeting where Bozzutto was able to point to 1 or 2 years of meetings with the RDB that the Community was unaware of. Fighting against this BROKEN SYSTEM that puts residential neighborhoods at is what it MEANS to protect our neighborhoods. And if you don’t think so, then you are part of the problem, not the solution.

          • Reston2000

            Being a fighter is good, but the Board needs more than that. All of the Board members fight for their districts, but none have been able to identify the traps ahead of time. This stuff is complex. We need someone on the Board who is very experienced in land use issues, finances, governance, contracts, management of staff, who is willing to read the documents ahead of time, and who is able to understand what’s being said. That’s clearly Mr. Mooney – a 17 year Arlington County official with management, finance, and land use experience. For me, it’s no contest. He brings new skills to the Board – skills that Board desperately needs.

          • Bernie Supporter

            You keep talking about Mooney’s 17 years of experience that left Arlington so overdeveloped that even HE moved away from it. He also moved away from his own record during the debate, For me, it’s no contest either, The “skills” and “experience” that Mooney would bring to the board would be a disaster for Reston. He can keep Arlington. I just don’t want his hands anywhere near Reston.

        • Mike M

          You give me hope for Reston!

    • The Constitutionalist

      I certainly hope this is a joke.

      • TRS

        Not at all.

  • Reston2000

    Ms. Krieger is a tad off in her conclusions. She states that RA should have sought advice on both the renovations and operating budget of the Lake House. RA has TWO attorneys on its payroll – one that has years of land use experience, and the other has years of HOA experience – who should have provided better advice on this project. When we are paying these folks this much money (in excess of $500K between them), we should have been able to avoid these pitfalls that cost us millions. And, in her statements about engaging the residents sooner, this is true, however there were SEVERAL people who took the time to come to the RA Board meetings to voice their concerns about the Lake House from the beginning, and their concerns were not heard. While there is a definite need to engage people sooner, there is an equal need to establish a process for bringing projects to the Board, giving the Board enough time to read and understand these project proposals, and to float these new project ideas with their constituencies before voting on them, and most importantly, the Board needs to LISTEN to residents who are asking questions and expressing concerns. People in our community are VERY smart and offered very good advice to the Board, and none of that was heeded. Most of the issues that the Board is facing on the Lake House project now were raised very early on by residents. So it’s not all about early engagement – it’s also about listening. Our Board needs to understand that there is value in what members are saying.

    • MakeRestonBetter

      “Our Board needs to understand that there is value in listening.” This is so true, and Arlene Krieger clearly does not listen to anyone else. John Mooney has not only been respectful of other candidates and the process, he has attended numerous meetings of the Board and other committees so he can truly understand the working relationships between the Board, RA Staff, and the County. We need some maturity on the Board, not more political theater.

      • Reston2000

        “We need some maturity on the Board, not more political theater.” Spot on. At another candidates forum, the candidate in Hunter’s Wood pointed out that it’s hard to go to meetings and see the lack of civility between Board members and between the Board and its members – exactly right…we need a seasoned professional, with the ability to listen and learn and lead.

        • Bernie Supporter

          Mooney leads from behind. He doesn’t offer political theater because he doesn’t offer much at all, except 17 years of bad experience with which he helped overdevelop Arlington to the point where you can’t drive a car. If you want Arlington, by all means move there. I’m not really knocking Arlington. Arlington is a great place — IF you want to live in a city. I don’t. I moved to Reston to enjoy Reston’s lifestyle. Mooney’s experience in listening appears to be limited to listening to developers.

      • Bernie Supporter

        Well the people who fought against the Soccer Field would disagree with you. Both Ms. Krieger and Mr. Mooney showed up at their meeting. Ms. Krieger came prepared, listened, and helped. Mr. Mooney came unprepared, weak-willed and indecisive as he usually is. Mooney is all suit and polish, but no substance. He only listens after the fact. He jumped on the bandwagon to speak out against the soccer field only AFTER the issue was tabled. That is NOT LEADERSHIP. That’s NOT MATURITY. He joined the fight against SJW late in the game — has advised to negotiate with developers who are violating our Master Plan — and who wants credit for being one of its leaders. That is the worst kind of slimy politics imaginable. And that certainly is NOT LISTENING.

  • Bernie Supporter

    Wow. I don’t know what you people were watching, but what I saw was a woman who was in touch with what the Community was screaming about, and offered them a real opportunity to be heard. On the other hand, I saw a more polished politician who had no real answers and literally said he didn’t want to “burden” the community with early inclusiveness. There is a grassroots movement going on in this country for more transparency, not less. I voted for Arlene Krieger and I think you should, too. Unless knowing what’s going to be bull dozed next door to you is too much of a “burden” for you to know. (Also, for the person who said we had two lawyers on hand for the Lake House Purchase: Ms. Krieger was right. RA needed a realtor to get the appraisal done right.)

    • Steve

      Her comment about “bulldozers at the door” was ridiculous. Not one dollar in funding has been raised for the Lake Newport soccer fields. Yet Ms. Krieger continue to trade in misinformation and homeowner fear. Reston deserves better.

      • Bernie Supporter

        She wasn’t talking about Lake Newport. She was talking about SJW. The only one dealing with in misinformation and fearmongering was Mooney. He said Buzzotto could come back — and then immediately said even if what they came back with was absurd. Duh. Anyone can do that. But Buzzotto doesn’t have much hope since it signed away some of its “rights” Mooney spoke of. This was a balanced news article. But the response seems almost like a coordinated hit job on Ms. Krieger as part of a Mooney coalition. Shame on you.

        • cRAzy

          Seems like your doing all the “hit job.”

          • Bernie Supporter

            Really? That’s funny. Because when you look at the time stamp of how many hours ago this thread began you will see a continuous stream of attacks on Ms. Krieger from the get go. I got involved until much later, when I couldn’t take the one-sided, seemingly nasty and personal nature of what was said. The RestonNow article was balanced reporting. It treated each candidate fairly and accurately and conveyed their positions, which were as different as night and day. I voted for Ms. Krieger because she’s not only fighting for me and MY neighborhood, but for OTHER neighborhoods. If someone threatens to redevelop YOUR neighborhood, you’ll wish to God you had Ms. Krieger fighting for you. Mooney will “negotiate” your living room away.

      • Eric McErlain

        Indeed, she wasn’t speaking of Lake Newport, but as a resident who lives right next to those fields, I can attest to the fact that our neighborhoods felt ambushed when the letters announcing the first community meeting landed in our mailboxes with only four days warning. The RA does a poor job of communicating with members when it comes to projects like this one, and when Arlene says she’ll ensure that the community is engaged earlier in the process so they won’t get shut out, I believe her.

    • JoeInReston

      “RA needed a realtor to get the appraisal done right.)”

      If only the Reston Association had Realtor’s serving on the board of directors. They could have used their real estate wisdom to help the association stay clear of an imprudent purchase.

      http://www.allrestonrealestate.com/our-agents/
      https://www.zillow.com/profile/RayMax/

      • JoeInReston
        • Bernie Supporter

          But they didn’t. And Ms. Krieger would have. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I guess Ms. Krieger would have had a different opinion which would have led to a more lively, and perhaps more fruitful outcome. Clearly, from what Ms.Krieger said last night, she approached the appraisal from a different point of view. We NEED different points of view. I don’t think that’s Mooney. I think that’s Krieger.

          • cRAzy

            Actually, the appraisal was done by a professional appraiser who is far more qualified to conduct an appraisal than any realtor.

          • Bernie Supporter

            If that’s the case, CRAZY, then why did we spend twice as much money as what the property was worth? Or are you debating that? Are you saying this professional appraiser got it right? Seriously????

          • Reston2000

            Have you read the appraisal?? The problem was not with the appraiser, but with the instructions given to the appraiser by RA. They told the appraiser to appraise as a restaurant, that could be expanded into the lake, and to assume all deferred maintenance was corrected. Those instructions would do only one thing: drive up the cost, likely to justify the ridiculous price that the owner wanted/needed. While the appraiser honored that request, and gave the value as an expanded restaurant with all maintenance corrected ($2.65M), he also noted that the best use of the building was as an office, valued in the range of $1.1 – $1.4M), yet when the project was presented to the Board and to the people, RA told us the property was worth the higher price without telling us they jacked it, and never mentioned the lower price. The appraiser also noted considerable renovation costs that were needed, that were also ignored by RA. And those costs were raised again in the engineering report, and were ignored again. And lo and behold, when the building has to be used, and we need code compliance, all the sudden, we have all these repairs we have to do, which coincidentally match what the appraiser noted almost a year earlier. So do I think the appraiser got it right – yes, I think the appraiser got it right despite the crappy instructions RA gave him. Read the 2010 appraisal, and the 2015 appraisal – you’ll see that the appraiser did the right thing.

          • Bernie Supporter

            You and I don’t disagree. In fact, what you’re saying is exactly what Ms. Krieger said during the debate. That the reason RA got it wrong is that they had it appraised as a restaurant instead of just another house on Lake Newport. No argument there.

          • cRAzy

            Well, BS, if you had read the appraisal, the instructions for the appraisal, the StoneTurn report, or just about anything else about the appraisal over the last year, you’d know exactly why the valuation came in at $2.65 million. And I’m almost sure you can read instead of just mouthing off.

          • Bernie Supporter

            So you believe that the appraiser got it right and that we paid the right amount of money for Lake House. You are entitled to your opinion. So I won’t mouth off to you. If you believe that, you have what you deserve. Congratulations.

          • cRAzy

            The appraisal was right given RA’s assumptions and, in fact, included an “as is” valuation of the property at $1.3 million in good condition (an assumption directed by RA). Had we bought it at that price (adjusted for wear and tear), we would have had the price right. Still, it would have been a stupid purchase since there is no clear community need for the facility and it will never pay for itself, even at the proper sales price.
            On a broader note, however, it really helps when people here know what they are talking about before they start mouthing off, and then don’t engage in grotesque hyperbole. You do not qualify on either count.

          • Bernie Supporter

            I doubt you qualify, either. And if mouthing off on this thread were a crime, I certain I would be convicted… along with you and virtually everyone else who has posted. What’s more, your ad hominem attacks on me mean nothing. You — just like Mooney — offer “facts” that explain away why RA so badly fumbled the ball on this. Restonians don’t need explanations of why things went SO wrong. They need people like Ms. Krieger on the board to help prevent them from going wrong in the first place.

            Further, the point isn’t whether I’M qualified (or you, for that matter). Neither of us are running for the board. The point is that Ms. Krieger is qualified. She knew that it was being appraised the wrong way and would have fought to prevent that. She might have even gotten to the conflict of interest that no one seems to like to talk about regarding this whopping amount that we paid for. You are arguing in support of being wrong. I don’t want people on the board who will do the same thing.

          • Reston2000

            She could not have known it was being appraised the wrong way because the appraisal was not released until after the purchasing contracts were signed. RA folks were very tricky. No one knew early enough to prevent it. Only when the appraisal was released did people realize. It’s easy to Monday-Morning Quarterback, and yell and holler about what you would do to prevent these events, but you need to have a lot of experience reading these documents, and recognizing problems, and understanding what can go wrong to actually prevent this from happening, and that’s why I am voting for Mr. Mooney. He brings 17 years of experience as a senior manager for Arlington County, including 7 years as Assistant County Manager, and was responsible for overseeing key departments and planning and zoning issues. He brings land use experience, finance experience, management experience, experience working with the counties. We just just don’t have that on the Board right now, and it is sorely needed. We are relying on RA attorneys to represent our interest in the land use arena, and it has not always ended well for us. It would be good to get somebody on the Board who understands this stuff, and represents not just RA, but also the members.

          • Bernie Supporter

            Mooney’s 17 years of experience serving Arlington is the exact reason NOT to vote for Mooney. Arlington is the POSTER CHILD for overdevelopment. You can’t even drive a car there anymore. It’s a giant parking lot. The schools are so overcrowded that they can’t new ones fast enough. I don’t want to live Arlington. I want to live in RESTON. I suggest that anyone who wants to benefit from Mooney’s 17 years of experience heading in the wrong direction, move to Arlington. Even Mooney MOVED AWAY from Arlington. And during the debate when Ms. Krieger brought up Arlington’s overdevelopment, Mooney actually moved AWAY from his own record of responsibility for that overdevelopment. Don’t take my word for it. Just go to the video and watch try to distance from his own record in his own words — and go back as far in the video as you want to see that what he said was not taken out of context. Mooney did a political sidestep and distanced himself from his own experience. The LAST thing Reston needs is the Arlington “experience” he would bring.

          • Reston2000

            Look – we need people on the Board that know how to read a proffer, know how to manage money, know how to manage people, understand zoning, can look at a contract and see it’s not a good deal for us – that is not her. Yes, she is passionate, but she does not have the expertise. No one on the Board does. We do not need another political activist on the board, we need someone who can read legal documents and ask smart questions so we aren’t outplayed by our own attorneys.

          • Bernie Supporter

            Look — we don’t need people who can do all those things but has a long, proven record of making BAD decisions … decisions that always seem to favor of-of-control developments. 

            What’s more, where do you get that Ms. Krieger can’t do these things? As someone who worked for large nonprofits as she has organizing huge numbers of volunteer, she clearly knows how to manage people. 
 And I’ve never known a realtor who couldn’t read a legal document. 

Unless you’re suggesting that Mooney is a lawyer? Is he? Didn’t see that on his resume that he highlights everywhere instead of his positions on ANYTHING. The man stands for nothing but wants seat at the table. He’s a newcomer to Reston who wants a seat at the table … and as far as read in this thread, he may not even have lived here as long as he claims.

          • Reston2000

            So another realtor is what we need?? Yeah let’s add another local realtor to the Board because that has worked out SO well for us in the past…smh..

          • cRAzy

            Screed is so much easier to deal with than the complexity of facts and reality.

          • Reston2000

            I believe the appraiser got it right and we DID NOT pay the right amount. The appraiser got it right because he did what the client (RA) asked – to appraise as a restaurant, which was total BS, but he also appraised ‘as-is’ DESPITE RA’s stupid instructions to appraise only as a restaurant. The appraiser was honest – he put the ‘as-is’ price right in there which was $1.1 – $1.4M which RA promptly ignored. SO it wasn’t the appraiser. It was RA that took the higher price that caused us to pay the price for an expanded restaurant with all maintenance repaired, for an “as-in” building in need of lot of repairs. It wasn’t the appraiser.

  • Terry Maynard

    Arlene Krieger’s own comments have cemented my decision on who I think the residents of North Point should vote for: John Mooney.

    Arlene says re the mistakes of the Tetra purchase, “We need to recruit from the community experts who know what they’re doing, [and] we need to include them from the first day anything is planned.”

    I couldn’t agree more, and John Mooney is just that person with his extensive experience in local government in Arlington County. That expertise showed in the excellent analytical work he did on the many legal, design, and other flaws in Bozzuto’s plans to redevelop Saint Johns Woods. So far as I know, not only did he do this work on his own initiative–not “assigned” by Arlene as she claims (who is she to assign anyone anything?)–but the impressive expertise displayed in his analysis blew the stupid Bozzuto plan out of the water. In fact, we have posted his analysis on the Reston 20/20 blog if you want to read it (it is technical).

    Aside from his expertise, John displayed his usual calm demeanor in dealing with the inaccuracies presented by his opponent in last night’s forum. I definitely would expect him to bring the same approach to the work of the RA Board, which routinely needs coolness, logic, and collaboration in productively doing its work. As a Board member, he will not engage in the over-the-top kind of political theater on display last night.

    If the people of North Point want a representative who will improve the work of the RA Board on behalf of the community using his expertise and his ability to work with others, I would highly recommend that they vote for John Mooney.

    • Bernie Supporter

      The key comment here regarding Mooney’s contribution to SJW was “as far as I know.” And you don’t know. And what Ms. Krieger never even mentioned last night (at least I think she didn’t) is despite the analytical work (regardless of who you believe)…. the Reston Design Review Board APPROVED Buzzotto’s plan. What Ms. Krieger did was get SJW away from the Design Review Board and in front of the entire board. The entire board voted UNANIMOUSLY and shut Buzzotto’s plan down. So if you want to vote for who tries harder vs. who gets the job done, that’s your business. Me, I like to go with the winner.

      Oh, and by the way, when you ask “Who was Ms. Krieger to assign anything to Mooney?” You’re asking questions you should know the answers to before you make statement. She was one of the three women who began the task force, and she assigned him that task in a ROOMFUL of people. You really should do some interview with people who were there at the time before you come up with this stuff out of thin air.

      • cRAzy

        DRB’s only mandate is to determine whether an applicant’s proposal is consistent with RA’s design guidelines. It has no broader mandate to look at overdevelopment. The Board can consider anything it wishes.

        And how does a volunteer “assign” a volunteer to do anything? Seems like a contradiction in terms, unless it’s the all-volunteer military.

        • Bernie Supporter

          Hmmm. Is that supposed to be a tough question. I guess that when I volunteered to help in last year’s election, other volunteers who were leaders of my group didn’t “assign” me to do anything. They told me what needed to be done and told me to do if I wanted to be helpful. If you want to call that an all-volunteer military, I guess you can. But I find the thought ridiculous. Don’t tell me that you’ve never been a volunteer? And if you were, were you ever a coordinator? And if you were a coordinator, how did you get anything done without telling people what had to be done, and asking them to do it?

      • Donald

        In this instance, I believe the developer is only concerned about the DRB’s decision not the RA board’s decision. The RA board resolution only has political clout, and in this instance with the county, that means very little. So, she fought the wrong fight with the wrong folks. Just my two cents.

        • Bernie Supporter

          If that was the case, and the DRB already approved the plan, then why did Bozzutto go back to the drawing board. According to you, they had all the permission they needed. Makes no sense.

          • Donald

            Perhaps I’m confused here. You believe Bozzuto’s plan has actually been shut down by the Reston Association Board?

  • 30yearsinreston

    This is storm in teacup
    People should realize that a competent Real Estate saleswoman led the the Lake White Elephant fiasco
    What could have gone wrong when just.as ignorant staff were involved ?

  • RB

    Arlene supported the movement in North Point to stop the give-away of RA land to a private group, Reston Soccer. She didn’t equivocate or hesitate, she joined us in opposition right away. Mr. Mooney waited until it was clear the soccer boondoggle was going to lose. Then he joined the bandwagon. Arlene speaks for those of us in North Reston who are fed up with a small clique working hand in hand with RA staff to cram expensive follies like the Lake House down our throats. If you like the way Reston has been going and the plans to turn it into Ballston West, then Mr. Mooney is your candidate. If you think RA is broken and needs a major shake-up, then vote for Arlene as I have done.

    • Steve

      A boondoggle? Something that is consistent with the Reston Master Plan (which states that fields should be artificial turf and lighted – see page 143) and would benefit 2000+ children at the expense of a few hysterical homeowners? Please.

  • Stella

    John Mooney is the best candidate with the needed experience, professional credentials and appropriate demeanor. Arlene Krieger came across as angry rather than passionate and did not present a coherent approach or appropriate solutions that would result in a functional board.

    • Bernie Supporter

      I just reviewed the online video again that the Reston Association posted on their YouTube channel. I couldn’t disagree with you more. Had you said that she said a few things that sounded sarcastic, I would have agreed with you. But I think sarcasm is a powerful weapon when used appropriately. I didn’t see one moment when she came across angry — except at a broken RA system that is not listening to what the community is angry about. if you saw something different, please be specific.

  • John Farrell

    The structure and execution of this event was atrocious.

    48 minutes of viewing time for 9 minutes of actual content.

    The reading of the rules took up more time that answers to the questions.

    Seriously, the mike didn’t work? But that could not be figured out until the tape was rolling. It’s called a mike check, people, and it’s done before the tape is rolling.

    What did we get, 4 questions posed.

    Multiple distractions from numerous people walking around.

    RA’s been doing this for more than a decade and this is the best they can do.

    Amateur hour.

    • Greg

      Cate Fulkerson needs to be fired. Calling her incompetent is as kind as one can be.

  • Mary

    Arlene Krieger and I are political opposites outside of Reston Association matters. I greatly admire Arlene Krieger for taking steadfast positions based on what she believes is right, in accordance with the Reston Master Deed and RA’s Covenants and By-Laws. Arlene Krieger will fight for North Point without compromising the governing documents.
    John Mooney is the most indecisive man I have ever met. He is well-seasoned at spending other people’s money as a decade-long Arlington County Bureaucrat and is comfortable at the prospect of spending OUR assessment money on countless more studies in areas in which Reston Association has no business!
    Lake Houses bought at a windfall profit for the seller, private entity destruction of grassy soccer fields to the tune of $2.4 Million, and dock renovations to benefit an RA Board Member who doesn’t see any conflict of interest to disclose (when she owns both an adjacent commercial and residential property), are all symptoms of how afar RA has strayed from its defined mission, RA is charged with maintaining common areas and protecting our property values. It’s not a corporation that needs to grow outside of these primary functions on our tab. RA’s CEO Cate Fulkerson and the Board of Directors are so off course at the present time that we need Arlene Krieger in North Point and Ven Iyer as the At-Large Candidate to reign RA back in! All the other RA Board of DIrectors candidates are wishy-washy politicians, and some even have thugs working to discredit the candidates with character. Several have blatant conflicts of interest. Vote Krieger and Iyer to infuse some integrity and accountability back into the RA Board of Directors.
    Also note that Fairfax County Property Records indicate that John Mooney’s Reston property was conveyed to him for $0 consideration on October 14, 2016. I moved to Reston in 1979 and speak from a well-honed institutional memory of Reston’s evolution. If Mr. Mooney really has actually resided in that Reston property for a short four MONTHS, he has quite a lot of HUBRIS to deem himself worthy of a Board position!

    • vdiv

      Daym, where did you find all this mud? Thanks for making my choice easy.

      John it is.

  • Bayfield 1

    I a man a strong supporter of Arlene. She has been dedicated to the community and takes the time to educate herself on the issues BEFORE coming to meetings. She invests the time to speak to neighbors who she will represent. In addition she is knowledgeable about the covenants and has the courage and commitment to represent her community’s interest.

    I was disappointed that Mooney came to meetings unprepared. He lacked the background information needed at the time.

    Arlene came prepared, understood the issues and has been committed to Reston for years. Please support this community leader who will LIsTEN to you and will represent you!!!

  • Bernie Supporter

    My point was not for people to vote for a woman. But for THIS woman. I think some of the men on the board are great. But I think that THIS woman will bring a different point of view to the board, and serve as a voice for the community. The man running for this seat , to me, stood for nothing. I found him to be evasive, and when he was clear, he was clearly offensive,. He literally said that he would NOT include the community early on in matters that directly affect us. He said that that would “burden us.” That is the most patronizing, paternalistic horseshit I’ve ever heard.

    • John Higgins

      BS, I hate to take the scent off a fresh red herring, but your re-statement of Mr. Mooney’s comment both distorts it and misses the point. He suggests that before cranking up the community (Bob Simon relished calling them NIMBYs), the board should spend more time weeding out the truly bad ideas. Taking up issues without adequate pre-study wastes the board’s time and the community’s energy. (See: Lake Anne dock enhancements.)

      • Bernie Supporter

        The great part about videotape is that regardless of how you mischaracterize what I said, the statement is there — in context — from Mooney’s lips to our ears. Your expletives and colorful language can’t change that. You add to the problem by calling it “cranking up the community.” But if you lived by the Soccer Field and faced the prospect of Stadium Lights each night while you tried to enjoy your deck, you wouldn’t think that they could have told you about that plan early enough. The problem, from my point of view, is that people are NOT weeding out these bad ideas. They are moving them forward — in secret. I was at one meeting where the developer was able to show, if I remember correctly, TWO years of meetings with the Reston Review Design Board before the community got wind of it 48 hours after a vote to approve it (after “negotiated” concessions, that somehow the RDB did not know still violated out Master Plan.) You would speak differently, in my opinion, if the master being discussed behind closed doors regarded you personally. So that’s not the scent of red herring you’re smelling. Its the smell of coffee that you need to wake up to.

        • Guest

          Out of curiosity… what expletives and colorful language? Did you misunderstand “BS”?

  • Tammi Petrine

    I’ve been at 4 meetings now Arlene Krieger in the last several months. At each, she has inadvertently embarrassed herself, stating with great emotion, absolutely incorrect information. When Arlene asked me to back her candidacy at a the last RNAG hearing at N. County Gov’t Center several weeks ago, I told her I would not. She asked Why?

    I told her what I have just said here. She does not understand the very complex process by which development is approved in Reston but rattles on with ‘authority’ that she will stop this and that. If only wishing would make it so Terry Maynard and the 2020 Committee would be sunning in Tahiti. Alas, it is not so.

    While I totally commiserate with N. Pt. residents who hate the idea for good reason, I can assure you that St. Johns Woods is indeed going to be redeveloped if the owners deem the local economic climate advantageous. Look up and learn how the master plan functions. Owners of property can develop if zoning allows them to. Once given, zoning can not be reduced. What we don’t know yet is if Mr. Mooney’s legally oriented work will force Bozuto and the owner of the property, who is in partnership with Bozuto, to revamp their SJW plan. I suspect that we are in a temporary hiatus while Bozuto attorneys are working with County staff to determine their rights, i.e. does their plan conform or violate the requirements of the approved master plan.

    Sadly, because Reston is not legally a town like Herndon or Vienna, FFX Co. controls development here and no one else. RA is an HOA that has absolutely zero power to stop development IF it corresponds to what is allowed by the FFX Co. Master Plan. In RA membership areas of which SJW is one, RA’s DRB (Design Review Board can influence what the buildings look like from the outside but the DRB can not stop the projects permanently. The current version of the Reston Master Plan was approved on 10.20.15 and since then the BOS has approved even more density in TSA’s when it passed the ZOA in 2016. See link: https://www.restonnow.com/2016/05/09/fairfax-county-seeks-higher-density-limits-in-reston/

    The BOS is even now considering passing an abbreviated development process called Fairfax Forward which will streamline development approvals even more.

    I understand that Mrs. Krieger is passionate and well-intentioned. However she is far over her head in complex development and zoning matters in Reston. What I found extremely off-putting in the debate last night was her abuse of Mr. Mooney who is a seasoned veteran planning professional who would be a tremendous asset on the RA BOD. She tried to make him look weak and wrong. Yet to those who know the process, she belied her own deficiencies. Mr. Mooney would be incredibly valuable on the RA board because HE does know and understand what can and can not be done to slow down the onslaught of development swallowing Reston.

    BTW, I sign my name to my posts. I suspect that “Bernie Supporter” may indeed be Mrs. Krieger herself. 15+ posts is a bit much for any issue. Peace to all.

  • Dale

    Arlene is the only one that seems to get it! Many of you are clearly in denial about what is happening in Reston. John was an eloquent speaker, and he seems ok. However, Arlene is right about things going on now are “just really obvious and silly not to recognize it.” Meaning things are not complicated as John implied and that common sense needs to prevail. Further, as Arlene indicated with regard to transparency people are standing up and telling their government and representatives you need to tell us what is happening. So that the entire community can be engaged and we can understand projects and such clearly before they are executed. I feel confident that once elected Arlene will not change her tune and further she will continue with her clearly dedicated level of commitment. More importantly she does understand the relationship between Reston and Fairfax County!

  • Donald

    Bernie, I really believe St. Johns Wood is going to be developed. Yes, the development plan will look a lot different than the first proposal, but, it’s going to be redeveloped.

    As I read about recent events, the community, the RA board, and the DRB have accomplished a lot making Bozzuto adjust its plans. But, I guarantee, the Board of Supervisors will approve the ultimate plan.

    The best we can do, is to continue to collaborate with the developer (as we have), and leverage our strengths as a deeded community to get Bozzuto to build something as palatable as possible.

  • Donald

    Well, the majority of Restonians do not have the luxury of a patio or deck. But, many do have children who play soccer. I believe Reston Soccer had the best of intentions, and appears to be willing to come up with something the community would approve of and enjoy. Collaboration versus obstruction.

  • Donald

    Deleted my comments below.. Apologies. I love the opportunity to comment, learn and share thoughts and ideas back and forth. But, I found myself sinking into the abyss here.

  • james dean

    if reston assoc did hidden creek sale properly…hidden creek should have restrictions that wont allow for unwanted development…otherwise, ra, rescue reston & all of us will have to step up & stop unwanted development there

    • Donald

      James, what do you mean by “… if reston assoc did hidden creek sale properly…”

      Donald

      • james dean

        thanks…they didnt do tetra / lake house right…there were approx 14 easements on that property that meant it could not be a restaurant but ra paid too much for it anyway…then the contract allowed for the previous owner to back out of the rent agreement so ra lost even more $…& the problems there go on & on til most recently paying $45K for a review report that doesnt even let ra members know who specified treating tetra / lake house as a potential restaurant & or who authorized spending more for renovations than the ra board had approved…so like i said…if reston assoc did the hidden cheek sale properly….

        • Donald

          I’m sorry, but you are confusing me, and I admit my reading comprehension has diminished over the years.

          Are you suggesting RA sells Hidden Creek CC? If that’s what you mean, I don’t believe RA owns the property. And why would we sell the open space to a developer or whomever. If anything, I see RA needing to purchase the property.

          I believe the Community needs to review the governing documents to see if Hidden Creek is subject to the deed. Also, what, if any, impact does the proposed grid of streets encroachment have? Would the HCCC owner have the appropriate “out” via the county and be able to sell to a developer(s)?

          Given the property’s proximity to the TSA, and potential “Fairfax Forward” initiatives – this could get complicated and expensive. Shouldn’t all of us get organized?

  • Steve

    Enjoy your deck. Try not to think too hard about the nearly 2,000 children you just told to go to hell, not to mention their parents and extended families. If the proposal ever gets to a referendum Reston Soccer wins as they outnumber the homeowners by at least 10-1.

    • Bernie Supporter

      Strong words. But wrong. I don’t have a deck overlooking the proposed Soccer Field. I just empathize with them. You on the other hand are comparing 2000 kids and their families to EVERYONE else in Reston who can use that space right now. If anyone is telling anyone to go to hell, I think the sheer numbers of individuals involves reveals who that person is. And its not me.

  • Donald

    Given the amount of negative discourse, vengeance, distrust, anger, name calling, and everything else that has been written, I’ll be amazed if anything will be able to be accomplished by the Reston board.

  • Jeannie

    Ms. Krieger is a person of her word. She does what she says she is going to do. She may have a less polished delivery; however, I trust her to stand up for what she believes in come what may. That, my friends, is worth its weight in gold. She fights for what she believes in. If you moved to Reston because it is the ONLY jurisdiction that preserves green space and offers special amenities for use by all Restonians, for instance, then Arlene is your girl. She will not disappoint.

  • Tammi Petrine

    Hi All,
    Just a hint. Arlene and ‘Bernie Supporter’ are identical twins. 27 out of 97 posts on this stream and most of them directly attacking Mooney!!! C’mon!

    Much too much exactly same verbiage has outed her. I know. I’ve been to 5 dreadful meetings with her recently and heard it all before.

    The style differential between Arlene and Mooney could not be more pronounced. One has lots of bravado and frenzied pronouncements. Big hat; no cattle. The other has diplomacy and rational solution producing skills.

    The RA board has 9 members. It must function as a whole. Who do you think would be more valuable? A contentious person who loves the sound of her own voice and would waste a ton of other volunteers’ time OR a seasoned, respectful subject expert who does not speak until he has something valuable to say? With whom would you prefer to serve?

    • Donald

      Ms. Petrine, while I believe one candidate for this district is far better suited for the position – how do you know, factually, Ms. Krieger and the moniker “Bernie Supporter” are one in the same?

      I’ve read a lot of your work, and it’s superb. Do you need to diminish it by throwing stones? Why not let the people make their own decision, based on meaningful data and information. Something you’re really very good at.

      Donald

      • Bernie Supporter

        I think this is what you were referring to in that other thread we post on. I hadn’t seen this yet. I thought you were responding to someone who took issues with what I was saying. But your post was exactly what you said it was in that other thread. And I do appreciate it. Thank you.

    • Donald

      Edit: Ms. Petrine, having been the object of “Bernie Supporter’s” wrath, perhaps I was wrong. I do apologize. Regardless, I hope you will take my words to heart.

      All the best,

      • Bernie Supporter

        Donald, you and I are on difference sides of this. But reasonable people can disagree. Its not meant as “wrath” and I apologize if it comes out that way. But as we all saw with the Trump/Clinton election, passions can get strong. And I’ve grown up thinking that local elections are often even more important than national ones, because they effect you so very directly. You can be for or against Trump’s Wall, but it doesn’t affect me the same way SJW does. Again, not trying to be angry with you — just trying to disagree with you.

        Oh, and I have this bad/good habit (depending on POV) of not letting a statement that I disagree with go unchallenged. To me, not responding is like tacit agreement. I’m just hard-wired that way.

        • Donald

          Bernie, this will truly be the last time. Please take the following quote to heart. I mean no disrespect. Rather, I hope you take it to heart and learn from it.

          “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.” — Abraham Lincoln

          Now, to go outside and enjoy what Reston has to offer.

          All the best,
          Donald

          • Bernie Supporter

            Use cliché quotes much? 🙂

    • Bernie Supporter

      HA! This one is great. Yup, Tammie. You outed me. I am Ms. Krieger.

      And since I am Ms. Krieger, I can tell you first hand that Mooeny is the developer’s dream candidate.

      Also, since I am Ms. Krieger, I can tell you that your “seasoned” candidate is only seasoned of sleeping with the enemy. He doesn’t love the sound of his own voice. He loves the sound of the developers’ voice. He doesn’t believe that he can win any fight against any developer, and so he has lost the battle before it even begins.

      And lastly, I want to applaud you’re incredible deductive powers and reasoning. Why, you’re a regular Sherlock Holmes. 🙂

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