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Tuesday Morning Notes

by Fatimah Waseem October 2, 2018 at 9:00 am 8 Comments

Flavors of Fall set for Oct. 6 — The fall festival at Reston Town Center will take place from noon to 11 p.m. on Saturday. Although the event is free, tickets are available online for samplings from restaurants. [Greater Reston Chamber of Commerce]

New farmers market continues — Enjoy a temporary farmers market in Reston Town Center today from 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. The last farmers market in RTC is set for Oct. 23. [Reston Town Center]

A declining golf course or a new park — In this opinion piece, the writer argues that a new park with new housing is a viable and product use of Hidden Creek Country Club. [Greater Greater Washington]

Flickr pool photo by vantagehill

  • JoeInReston

    Regarding the “A declining golf course or a new park” bullet above…

    A new pattern is emerging – whenever a Reston density related issue comes up, ggwash.org will publish an oped in support of more density.

    • Greg

      Well imagine that — the site mostly focuses on urbanism. Reston is urbanizing.

    • Steve Patz

      the urban is coming. you can not stop it. it will overtake you.

      • JoeInReston

        You for one welcome your new urban overlords?

  • John Higgins

    The author of that ggwash article would put his fine writing ability to better use if he did a bit of research and contemplating before dancing on the keyboard. The golf industry trade literature (backed by statistics) disputes the notion that the sport has declining interest. One might recall that in the early 2000s, developing “golf communities” was the rage. Developers with little or no golf management experience built and built beyond the market saturation point. Then the housing bubble burst and only the best run communities survived.
    More to the point, however, is the viability of Hidden Creek as a golf club. It has been implied that the former owners could not operate it profitably. Assume that is true. It’s no surprise that a company (Wheelock) that is not in that business wouldn’t do much better. Ergo, it is not viable. Nonsense. I belong to a club that had a similar financial downturn. It was member-owned and member-managed. Membership declined and costs increased. Not willing to sell the club to a company that might convert it to housing, the members found a company offering to lease the land and run the club. They assumed all debt and invested several million dollars in infrastructure upgrades. Golf memberships have since doubled; swim/tennis and social memberships have skyrocketed and the enterprise operates profitably.
    In short, the viability of a golf club on this site should not be the focus of discussion. Wheelock did not acquire the property for that purpose. Despite the commitment of the local government and the strong desire of the community to retain the nature of this land, Wheelock appears to believe they can perform developer magic. I wish them no good luck.

    • JoeInReston

      This is a bait and switch proposal.

      The bait is the possibility of an open space alternative superior to a golf course. I can almost buy that argument. Certainly there are superior open space alternatives relative to scenic beauty and community benefit. Imagine a Meadowlark Botanical Gardens like setup.

      The switch is the intended use. The alternative open space proposal is just an teaser to persuade us to ditch the golf course. The real aim is to add development.

      For that reason, I would be against any proposal no matter how sweet it looks. I don’t trust developers nor the Fairfax board to do the right thing. The open space golf course is good enough.

  • Terry Maynard

    HCCC is NOT in any Metro station area–just look at the circles around the stations to see their limits (1/2 mile). It is also NOT identified by the county in its map of areas in the PRC (which includes HCCC) as an area for high-density development. (Remember that map we were shown at the beginning of the let’s-move-the-PRC-density-goalposts-to-16-DUs-per-acre.)

    Oh yes, the county (and specifically Supr. Hudgins) committed Reston to being a two golf course community during the RNGC brouhaha. And, if Reston reaches a population of 180,000 as its master plan allows, the county’s adopted service level standard for park facilities (1 hole per 3,200 people) calls for Reston to have 56 holes of golf–more than THREE golf courses.

    There is no standing legal or policy justification for allowing Wheelock to go ahead with any kind of development scheme at HCCC. Now we just need the county to step up and support its own policies, not to mention the residents of Reston.

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