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‘Hate Has No Home Here’ Sign Causes Controversy at Orchard Green

by Dave Emke — August 2, 2017 at 10:15 am 334 Comments

Signs claiming “Hate Has No Home Here” have popped up around the community, but one has caused controversy at the Orchard Green Cluster.

Rikki Epstein, of the 11400 block of Orchard Green Court, went before a panel of Reston’s Design Review Board on Tuesday evening to appeal a ruling by her cluster association that her 24-by-18-inch sign was not appropriate for display in her yard.

Dan Pennington, president of the Orchard Green Cluster Association, provided an official written statement as an affected party in the case, saying the sign should not be permitted “based on the clear definitions of Political Signs and what is permitted under RA rules.”

[Epstein] is applying to have a Political Sign displayed on her property. The nature of the impasse is her belief that it is a general sign and not a political one.

As the cluster board we reviewed this issue at our most recent board meeting in June. We voted to request its removal under the general RA Signs rules.

The resident in question also confirmed that this sign was given to her by the Democratic Party at one of the Reston Farmer’s Market this year.

A cursory review of the sign’s web site and underlying organization clearly reveals a political bias despite lip service to the contrary.

The DRB panel denied Epstein’s request to overrule the cluster association and allow placement of the sign, she said, on the basis of its size. Reston Association’s rules for small yard signs say they must be no bigger than one square foot in size to be displayed without a permit. The size of Epstein’s sign is the standard size distributed by the Hate Has No Home Here project.

Temporary political signs, up to 2-by-3 feet, are allowed by RA to be displayed in support of candidates or ballot issues, but must be removed “no later than one week after announcement of election results.” Epstein contends her sign is “clearly not a political sign,” but rather “promotes just and inclusive communities.” She says she intends to appeal the decision to the full Design Review Board for review and consideration, and she will be obtaining a one-square-foot version of the sign to display in the meantime.

In her official statement to the DRB panel, she said:

In Reston, the “Hate Has No Home Here” signs have been distributed at numerous locations including the Lake Anne Farmers Market, as well as at local businesses throughout our community and are available for any individual or group to download the artwork for free. In light of the recent tragic hate crime that occurred nearby, it is more important than ever that our community demonstrates our support for one another and ensures that everyone feels safe.

According to “Another Way of Living: The Story of Reston, VA,” a video project, our founder Robert Simon dreamed of “another way of living” that valued community, nature, diversity and social equity. This innovative American planner set out to build a new kind of walkable suburban community that integrated citizens across racial, economic and religious divides. I have to believe that Robert Simon would embrace the “Hate Has No Home Here” project.

“Today I feel disappointed to be a resident of Reston,” she said in an email.

Image via Hate Has No Home Here website

  • Greendayer

    At least she avoided rioting, arson, and shooting Congressmen.

    • Heh

      We set a high bar for civility in our pleasant planned community!

  • liberal

    TL;DR version:
    “Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee”

  • Anonymous Poster

    If I posted a sign saying countries are defined by their borders, would she argue that such a sign, also, is not political? I think not.

    Stop the doublespeak.

    • vdiv

      Uhm, borders and countries by definition are political, it is why the maps denoting them are called so.

      • Scott

        so is posting a sign in your yard about Hate in direct response to the Presidential election and an executive order on immigration.

        • vdiv

          It’s all about hate, isn’t it?

      • TheKingJAK

        Countries are defined by far more than politics, though. Also, Anonymous Poster is making a fair point. Nowadays “Hate” is itself an abused term often lobbed towards anyone promoting strong borders, etc.

        • Jason Rub

          Yes the word “hate” now exclusively refers to borders and walls, what kind of world have these liberals made where we can’t even us “hate” to refer to good old AMERICAN citizens we want out of this country

    • LaureenMT

      If you want a sign in your yard promoting strong borders, I say “Go for it!” Freedom of speech.

    • Jason Rub

      You do not understand how analogies work I’m sorry

  • Epstein

    “clearly not a political sign”, Epstein said while describing the political sign in her front yard.

  • John Farrell

    Since the RA regulations linked above allow political signs that are 2′ x 3′, even if it is a political sign, Ms. Epstein’s sign is allowed.

    I’m sorry Dave, your story doesn’t explain the “controversy.”

    • Scott

      Sorry. When was the election that would allow her political sign to remain in her yard?

      • Thomas Day

        Why does a political sign have to relate to a specific election?

        • Scott

          Why would you read a story that answers your question when you can just type the question in the comments section?

      • John Farrell

        The guidelines reference “political” signs not election signs.

        Politics encompass more than elections.

        Besides, we have multiple elections in Reston every year. The RCC Board election
        is coming up. There an election for an At Large School Board member on
        August 29 and the election for Governor in November. The principal of
        the sign has resonance in each of those elections.

        • Scott

          I’m voting for Hate in the upcoming School Board Election. You are being ridiculous

          • John Farrell

            Which RCC candidate is on the Hate Party ticket?

          • Scott

            Not sure. Haven’t researched it yet. You tell me since you said the sign has “resonance” to the RCC election.

          • John Farrell

            So far the candidates that I’m aware of support the sentiments expressed on the sign and in the RA founding documents.

        • Thomas Day

          Ignore this Scott guy (or gal). He/She is a paid troll who spends all his/her day posting comments, as if anyone cares what he/she thinks.

          • Mike M

            I respect Scott’s point of view. Yours seem authoritarian.

          • Jason Rub

            I think you’re a Russian bot

          • Greg

            Please quit thinking. It’s not productive.

          • Mike M

            Because I respect Scott’spoint of view. I am embarrassed for you. Do you work for the DNC?

          • Greg

            And you know this how? Exactly how?

    • sign me up

      John,
      If you took the time to read the article you’d see that political signs over 1SF are allowed when at the conclusion of the election they are removed. This sign clearly relates to no election.

      • Reston Now

        In fairness to John, the article was expanded after his comment.

        • John Farrell

          As I wrote below, with the plethora of elections held in Reston, that sign could be maintained on an almost continuous basis.

  • Rikki Susan Epstein

    Here is my official statement:

    Good evening. My name is Rikki Epstein and I am a 20 year resident of Reston.
    Following the Reston Association design guidelines, I am here today seeking approval to place a yard sign on my townhouse property since the sign is more than one square foot. The sign in question is 24” by 18”.

    The Reston Association design guidelines also address political signs. However, the sign, which says “Hate Has No Home Here,” is not a political sign. And “Hate Has No Home Here” is more than just a sign. It is a project that began in 2016 in Illinois and has spread across the country and across the globe. The “Hate Has No Home Here” project promotes just and inclusive communities by encouraging neighbors to declare their homes, schools, businesses, and places of worship to be safe places where everyone is welcome and valued. The focus of the project is to Create Communities of Hope One Sign at a Time.

    According to the “Hate Has No Home Here” website and I quote “This sign is not affiliated with any political party. This sign is a public declaration that hate speech and hateful actions against others will not be tolerated by the person or organization displaying the sign. In that, it is non-partisan. This sign is a statement that, while it is okay to disagree with others civilly regarding issues, it is not okay to intimidate or attack a person or group—verbally or physically—based on attributes such as gender, ethnic origin, religion, race, disability, political party, or sexual orientation. The colors of the sign—red, white, and blue—are the colors of the American flag, not any political party.” End quote. It also is clearly not a political sign since no campaign, candidate, referendum, or platform issue is addressed.

    In Reston, the “Hate Has No Home Here” signs have been distributed at numerous locations including the Lake Anne Farmer’s Market as well as at local businesses throughout our community and are available for any individual or group to download the artwork for free. In light of the recent tragic hate crime that occurred nearby, it is more important than ever that our community demonstrates our support for one another and ensures that everyone feels safe.

    According to “Another Way of Living: The Story of Reston, VA,” a video project, our Founder Robert Simon dreamed of “another way of living” that valued community, nature, diversity and social equity. This innovative American planner set out to build a new kind of walkable suburban community that integrated citizens across racial, economic, and religious divides. I have to believe that Robert Simon would embrace the “Hate Has No Home Here” project. Indeed, it has been embraced throughout our Reston community with yard signs outside of numerous homes and outside of several churches and synagogues.

    I have embraced this important project as well and am here this evening to formally request approval to place a “Hate Has No Home Here” yard sign outside my home on my property. Thank you.

    • Scott

      Sorry Rikki. The sign is political. It might have started non-political, but it was co-opted by the Vagina-hatter “Resisters” of Trump who claim border enforcement is “Hate”. I’ll refer you to the first story on Reston Now linked below when one such Vagina-hatted protester got 100 signs printed in response to Trump’s Immigration executive order. The sign is obviously a veiled political assertion that anyone who voted for Trump is “Hateful”. The irony is that those posting the signs are simply showing their intolerance and hate for anyone they disagree with. Stop being so hateful Rikki! After All, HHNHH!

      https://www.restonnow.com/2017/02/02/reston-woman-using-signs-to-show-hate-has-no-home-here/

      • Jason Rub

        What would Jesus do would he paint his front door powder blue in flagrant violation of the DRB of would he build a wall around Bethlehem and declare “this is MY swamp”

        • Scott

          Well, I don’t know Jesus personally, and I don’t think adherence to HOA rules is covered by any of the Apostles, but I can only assume that if Jesus decided to live in Reston, he would probably have follow perfectly legal ordinances regarding paint colors and political signs. I dislike much about RA, but it’s not like anything they do rises to the level of the biblical issues Jesus resisted.

          • Jason Rubinstein

            Who’s the paid troll now Scott

          • Scott

            Huh?

    • Secure Borders

      What if I were to place a sign which stated “Secure and Controlled Borders for America” implying I was in favor of the current administrations efforts. Would you support my efforts to voice my opinion?

      • John Farrell

        Yes!

      • RestonAssurance

        Comparing controlled borders to hate is not analogous.

      • Bah

        Just make sure the sign is “small” (1′ by 1′) and you’re good to go!

        Then your only problem will be spiteful liberals stealing the sign or vandalizing their house, because their commitment to “free speech” only extends to messages they think should be heard.

        • Jason Rub

          Yes because everyone knows liberals hate conservative signs more than anything, more than actual harmful legislation and that’s where they focus their efforts. Liberals love spray paint

      • Sigis Mund

        “Secure and Controlled Borders for America”

        take the sign down or meet the fate of the emperor!

        Ego sum rex Americanus, et supra grammaticam.

      • Jason Rub

        Are you saying Hate is also part of the current administration’s efforts because I don’t think you understand how analogies work

    • meberger

      The sign is more in keeping with Bob Simon’s dream of Reston than with any political message. It’s a great universal message and totally appropriate these days. Ms. Epstein should be allowed to keep that sign and the DRB should focus their attention on the rampant overgrowth of highrises that have become the real eyesore of Reston. This obstruction of her right to free speech is ridiculous and frivolous. Shame on the DRB!

      • Rikki Susan Epstein

        Thanks for your support

      • Mike M

        Simon failed.

        • Jason Rub

          Use your full name and show your face

          • The Constitutionalist

            You’re the type of person that creeps people out and makes them not want to use their real name or show their real face.

            Think about it…

            You’re asking strangers on the internet for their pictures and you want their real names so you can look them up.

            What’s next, you want their home addresses and their work schedules?

            Why do I feel like your picture is going to be on FCPD’s website later this month after you are arrested for peeping in on the preschool swim lessons at the Walnut Branch pool?

            Oh, I know why. Because you’re freaking weird man. Stop asking people for their pictures.

          • Jason Rubinstein

            No I’m just saying if you’re willing to espouse beliefs you believe to be “uncomfortable truths” you should have the backbone to sign your real name to your comments but it sounds more like you’re more interested in pee and preschoolers??? Wow dude also my address is 12001 market street come by any time and ask the attendant my apartment number and I’d be happy to talk to you about the merits of not being an old fart

          • The Constitutionalist

            I’m really not as old as you’re imagining.

          • Jason Rubinstein

            No your heart is just as cold as a corpse but you’re one of those reasonable 30 something conservatives who will save us all with patriotic bowties or something

          • The Constitutionalist

            I’m really not as old as you’re imagining…

          • Mike M

            All you got for this debate, Jason? Try logic. Maybe you did and realized the DNC is out beyond that realm.

          • The Dude

            Did you just assume someone’s age? Your and ageist, man!

          • The Dude

            Wish I could edit that to read “You’re an ageist man!”, since that’s what I typed.

          • Greg
          • Jason Rubinstein

            What’s up my dude

          • Mike M

            You are a clown. Your question has been answered. Still you play dumb and fail to stay on topic.

          • Mike M

            You are sounding like a hater, Jason. New sign just for you:

            Ole farts are welcome here!

            What would you know about being an old fart? Was that a cowardly threat, Jason?

            Do you work for the DNC, Jason?

          • Jason Rubinstein

            You can do that because I’m using my real name and that’s my face but I’m the weirdo for not going by an alias like “The Constitutionalist” like this is a video game or a bad play

          • The Constitutionalist

            http://www.wikihow.com/Be-Safe-on-the-Internet

            I rate the steps on that page to be 0/10 bananas in difficulty, even you could follow them.

          • Jason Rubinstein

            Your personal attacks about my intelligence have shown me the errors of my ways and have shown anyone who reads them that you really “got me” and definitely will be the dinner conversation in homes all across Reston. Sad!

          • Greg

            Stuff like this never goes away:

            http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/dpz/reston/community_documents/20140710_community_comment_jrubinstein.pdf

            Or this:

            https://angel.co/jason-rubinstein-1

            Worked for the hildebeest, did you? Imagine that!

          • Jason Rubinstein

            Yup and proud of it, you’re still too scared to identify yourself I come for your RA pool pass lololol the sooner you pass away the sooner we can pave over your antiquated world view good sir

          • Greg

            No wonder hillary lost.

            And your comment about my death is despicable, outrageous, and disgusting. Shame on you.

          • Mike M

            No. Why?
            Have you no other refutation?

    • Pfffft nice try

      “This sign is a public declaration that hate speech and hateful actions
      against others will not be tolerated by the person or organization
      displaying the sign.”

      This is a political message because “hate speech” and “hateful actions” and what “intimidates people” are politically defined. Happily, even the DRB is not stupid enough to believe this is not a political sign.

      • Jason Rub

        Yes, speaking out against murder is politically defined and I’m so glad the DRB is finally putting their foot down where it really counts

      • John Farrell

        If it’s political, then it meets the guidelines because its smaller than the dimensions allowed.

        • Try Again

          And it does not meet the guidelines because it was not removed soon after the election.

          • John Farrell

            Which election?

            The upcoming RCC election?

            The August 29 School Board election?

            The November Governors election?

            The March RA election?

            How about the pending court cases on the muslim ban?

            Good luck with that argument.

          • i saw the sign

            John,
            You’re bending the intent of the guidelines to suit your narrative. Can’t you accept that the sign is against the rules that we’ve all agreed to in order to live in the covenanted lands? And no one forced you to live here where you must abide by these guidelines, I’m pretty sure you could move to Sterling any day and post these signs all over your property there.

          • John Farrell

            Actually I applying the standard a court would use which places the burden on the enforcer to show plain language that is being violated. The guideline is silent on how long before an election a political sign may appear. It only says when it must come down. Even then it’s pretty vague when one considers recounts, challenges and political signs connected to court cases like RR.

      • RestonAssurance

        They have become politically defined, but are social constructs.

  • RestonAssurance

    Let her keep the sign. There is no malice in the verbiage.

    • Nope

      I say the sign is intended to attack and intimidate me. Therefore, it is hateful.

      • Susan Rathgeber

        Bwahahaha sadly, sarcasm is not spoken in the Reston community. At least, not fluently!

    • Reston Realist

      so now we get to determine whether or not a sign is appropriate? Let’s start a debate about the merits of the stupid sign and waste everyone’s time. Either the rules apply to everyone or no one.

      • Susan Rathgeber

        You obviously have concluded that “not hating” is a political stance. Lord, bless your little teeny tiny soul.

        • Reston Realist

          I really don’t understand what your obtuse points are? I think you should stop being obtuse and try to understand the issue at hand.

          • Jason Rub

            The size of a sign is the most important issue at hand also did you hear The Mooch got fired??

          • Mike M

            Mindless partisan. Have you no arguments boy?

  • vdiv

    Hatred is so institutionally entrenched here that the response from the DRB and your “fellow” Restonians should not be surprising even if it is greatly disappointing. As such the sign has a strangely comical, if not a sarcastic value. Sadly it is entirely futile. Even if we pepper the place with this sign centuries of crap will still remain. See, I am part of it too, I’ve become to hate my own home, nihilism settling in. Shame.

    • LMAO

      The DRB is hateful? I’d venture to guess they’re all Democrats. Their job is not to judge the political message but to enforce the rules about signs regardless of their message.

      • vdiv

        As I said, it permeates everything, including your response.

        • LMAO

          If enforcing rules is hateful, it is hard to see how we can have a civilization, let alone a planned community.

          • Jason Rub

            Yes, bending the rules about a sign that says “hate has no home here” is surely the thing that will set our civilization down the slippery slope to Marxism

    • Reston Realist

      You should seek help for your anxiety

      • Susan Rathgeber

        You should learn to appreciate subtle humor. Or stop trolling.

        • Reston Realist

          not sure if you understand what trolling is…. your humor is so subtle that it really isn’t funny.

          • Jason Rub

            Use your real name

          • Mike M

            Jason, you are a punk. Have an argument or are you just obsessed with identifying people with whom you disagree? Why is that Jason?

      • vdiv

        Anxiety?! No…
        Ambivalence and ennui?! Most def.

  • Snoops

    Looks like we got ourselves another case of “White supremacy is all-consuming, and it doesn’t matter if the perpetrator is non-white.”

    • Jason Rub

      Yes the liberals brought race into this, not the commenters who immediately made this about immigration law

  • Aimee Alexander

    It’s unfortunate that her community doesn’t value the sign. Clearly very much needed given the action taken by the HOA. Disappointed in RA, but lately, that’s nothing new.

    • Secure Borders

      Aimee,
      Its against the rules. If she would like these signs to litter Reston or her Cluster, why not go through the appropriate process to amend the guidelines?
      This is similar to immigration, there are set rules out there that everyone must follow to be allowed into the country. The liberals seem to forget there are rules and processes which must be followed.

      • John Farrell

        Not against the rules.

        • Reston Realist

          It is against the rules.

          • Susan Rathgeber

            Only against the rules if Hate is deemed a partisan issue. So, you are arguing that Democrats are against hate…. Who, exactly, is FOR it, then? We are afraid of offending them???

          • John Farrell

            Read the guidelines. The sign is permitted.

          • Nope

            No, it isn’t.

      • snowflake

        In the post-obama America, if a liberal is offended, rules are no longer enforceable.

        • Susan Rathgeber

          It’s not the Liberals being offended here, it’s the haters.

          • Mike M

            Put down the kool-aid. Step away from the kool-aid.

          • Jason Rub

            Show your face. Use your full last name.

          • Mike M

            No. In fact, I won’t even use my real first name, punk! Stay on topic.

          • Jason Rubinstein

            You’re a coward

          • Mike M

            Easy word to. Andy about in the internet.

      • Susan Rathgeber

        Does that mean that Conservatives seem to forget that Hate is not a family value? That everyone has 1st Amendment rights, even if they don’t agree with you? Hmmmm, food for thought.

        • Scott

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ab4d5be90ee320069167afd00dce7a9b37d4a4c61bd88893a5c08b2c7952f31e.jpg

          -Please do some homework on the 1st amendment.
          -The left suffers from Projection on almost every issue. They call people racist for advocating a position of NOT focusing on race, while demanding that RACE be considering in every issue, which IS inherently racist. In this case, the left lost it’s mind b/c Hillary lost to Trump and blames everyone not “woke” enough to have voted for her so in response, they put up signs that passive aggressively call people they disagree with ‘hateful’, which is, inherently bigoted and hateful on their part for judging people they don’t for reasons they don’t understand.

        • Oy

          Conservatives know that liberals think ANY disagreement with them constitutes “hate”, and therefore have learned to ignore you whenever you start blathering about “hate”.

          Also, the 1st amendment does not apply because the RA and the Cluster are not the government.

          Food for thought.

      • Jason Rub

        hahahahahahha you are a funny little troll

      • John Farrell

        Not against the rules. See explanation above.

    • Nan

      It’s got nothing to do with valuing or not valuing the sign. RA has a sign size standard, regardless of subject matter. The sign could say “Smile” or “Free Ice Cream” and the response would be the same. Is that so difficult to grasp?

      • John Higgins

        Your statements in the first two sentences are correct and ought to be the end of the discussion. I’m not so sure about the third sentence. I’ve seen scores of “Rescue Reston” signs that are larger than 1′ x 1′, and there was silence. There may be a bit of a double standard at play here.

        • John Farrell

          RA’s Covenants staff’s tolerance of the Rescue Reston signs could be seen as a waiver of the imitation as to time in the RA guidelines as those signs were up for more than a year.

          • John Higgins

            Sure. But as you know, the RA says explicitly that they do not waive the right to enforce provisions of the deed through non-enforcement [Deed, IX.1.(c)]. We don’t ticket every speeder, yet that’s not a waiver of the speed limit. The tragic part of this story is that those signs were tolerated because RA agreed with the message. Not the content-neutral approach that we should demand from RA and that’s the double standard I mention. Moreover, one could perhaps find that RR signs were “political” in the sense they sought support to influence a governmental action. But an equally valid view is that they proliferated as the organization faced mounting expenses and the need for expanded membership and donations. Commercial speech that should not have been permitted in any size. Maybe this explains why I still see those signs along fairways #14 and #15 while no governmental action is pending.

          • John Farrell

            The Declaration cannot override the case law on waiver of a restrictive covenant.

      • Mike M

        Wait a minute! Did you say free ice cream? I think we can all agree on free ice cream. Unless of course “free means more government debt.”

  • Drip

    At least anecdotally, the purveyors of these signs seem to skew heavily on the liberal side of the fence, regardless of any possible original intent by the originators. Saying that, let her keep the sign. She makes a decent case for demonstrating that the sign is not political. It’s certainly not offensive or partisan. Leave the lady alone.

    • Nonsense

      A sign does not have to be partisan to be political.

      • Susan Rathgeber

        But that reasoning does not stand up to logic. A sign that said “USA!” would be political, by your standards.

      • Mike M

        This one is quite partisan!

        • Jason Rub

          Yes, love and hate are partisan issues, like wearing blue or red to an election night party. You are so sad

          • Scott

            Democrats calling those they disagree with hateful is not a partisan issue. You are correct! #sad

          • John Farrell

            Don’t see those words on that sign.

          • Mike M

            Actually, I am pretty happy. I’ll explain because you are young and naive as once was I. See, J, I don’t feel the need to post signs declaring that spouse abuse and child torture have. I home at my place. Why would I do that? Now weigh in the long standing strategy of the DNC to divide people and demonize the opposition. Whence these signs? The DNC. It’s not a religious organization, Jason, although these moral superiority plays pose that way. They have an agenda and the Saul Alinsky methods.

          • Jason Rubinstein

            Hahahahaha ok before this post I didn’t think you were just trolling but man you really got me sir

        • John Farrell

          Nope.

          What part of the sentiments on the sign do Republicans reject?

          • Scott

            It’s funny.
            -in this case, Democrats put signs up in direct response to Trump to make a political statement, but want the words of the sign taken literally.

            – On immigration, PRESIDENT Trump signs an EO that is perfectly within the purview of the President, the a Democrat-appointed judge issues an injunction under the pretense that the EO doesn’t way what the words say, but b/c he inferred some other meaning based on what CANDIDATE Trump said during the campaign.

            To be clear, this is where the left ALWAYS goes off the rails. They assume that if you disagree with a policy or decision, then you are against whatever the policy is trying to accomplish. Honest and clean-minded people can debate and accept an outcome they don’t agree with when it conflicts with the standards, structures, and protections of the “law” whether it be the US Constitution, or RA Covenants.

          • John Farrell

            But the EO was unconstitutional according to several courts recommended by Senators and nominated by Presidents of both parties.

            The rest of your comment is unintelligible.

          • Mike M

            Unanimous SCOTUS clearance!

          • Greg

            The Supremes have yet to rule….as you very well know.

          • Feh

            They reject your definition of “hate”.

          • John Farrell

            Exactly what part of bigotry is no hate? Or racism? Or alt. right? Or xenophobia?

            Which Repubicans support bigotry, racism, alt. right, xenophobia, misogyny?

          • Mike M

            As has been said many times, the insinuation that non-Democrats are “haters.” You know that. You are just pretending.

    • Rikki Susan Epstein

      Thanks

      • Susan Rathgeber

        Rikki, what if you got your own version of the sign printed, without the image from the website? How many 1-square-foot signs are you allowed to have? Start a GoFundMe and I’ll pitch in $50 for you to get your own signs made. I have no political party affiliation whatsoever, BTW. Just a big fan of the 1st Amendment.

        • Rikki Susan Epstein

          I think only one sign is permitted but I’m not sure. A local graphic artist has offered to make me a small sign with the HHNHH artwork. Will see what happens with the appeal. I greatly appreciate your support!

          • John Farrell

            If its a political sign, you get two.

    • Reston Realist

      It’s not up for debate… If what the article says is correct, the sign is illegal and needs to come down

      • John Farrell

        Nope. See above.

    • Chkitout1

      I don’t tolerate hate in my house. I just don’t need a sign to show it.

      • Susan Rathgeber

        Yes, but if I told you you were not ALLOWED to post a sign, that would impinge on your 1st Amendment Rights. I seriously think that HOAs skirt the line with these particular types of rules. I mean, if you sit out front of your house wearing a hugely political tee shirt, are they going to issue a citation? Why do they get to ask us all to sign away a RIGHT?

        • Wow!

          First Amendment rights have nothing to do with this. Do a little reading about the First Amendment. This is about the SIZE of a sign. That’s all.

          • Scott

            I think size of the sign is fine. The is that it’s political, but not related to an election. The rules allow temporary signs that support an issue/candidate to placed in a yard around an election. This sign does not meet those criteria.

            While it seems overboard, the rule exists to prevent your wack-job neighbor from putting a permanent 6-foot sign in their yard that says Trump (or Obama) is the devil.

        • Scott

          You really don’t understand the issue Susan. Personally, I have no issue with the sign – I mean, The signs a stupid political reference directed at the current President, but people can proclaim their own hate and intolerance of otherse they disagree with in their yard as far as I’m concerned.
          The issue here is local ordinances regarding signage in yards. Love em or hate em, they are the rules. The sign is political, doesn’t support any issue or candidate that is part of an election, and cannot be left up in perpetuity.
          If the sign said, HHNHN. Vote Kathy Hudgins for BOS, that would be perfectly within the Guidelines. The sign would just need to posted after Cathy had secured a spot on the ballot and come down a week after the election.

          • John Farrell

            And the Rescue Reston signs that were up for a year?

            No one filed a complaint about them.

          • Scott

            RR signs are not political. Calling your neighbors hateful, b/c you disagree with them, in the form of a passive-aggressive sign IS. If you don’t understand the difference or the DRB guidelines, please stop commenting.

          • Drip

            This is where I have an issue… Many here are debating whether the sign is political or not. I get the subtle digs at Trump that the sign represents (although as mentioned earlier, she notes that the signs pre-date Trump). If a sign is not overtly political, and consequently up for debate, I am reticent to leave such a decision regarding what is and is not political speech to the DRB/HOA. The same DRB, I might add, that was slow and ineffective in coming out (if at all) when I was on my cluster’s board reporting real issues such as dilapidated houses and random garbage strewn in yards. We had to report them in bulk to even get a chance at having someone come out, which still wasn’t often.

          • Scott

            Fair enough, but let’s review the facts.
            -Trump won the election, not b/c he was a good candidate, but b/c Hillary was an awful candidate and worse human being.
            -The Left and media(Sorry for redundancy) lost it’s collective mind b/c #herstory, and started explaining the election as the rise of white nationalism and misogyny (instead of realizing Hillary was, is, and always will be an arrogant criminal with a milk toast personality and sense of entitlement.)
            -They started knitting genitalia hats and descended on DC to protest b/c they care more about what Trump said about women than what Bill and Hillary Clinton actually DID to women.
            -Whether they were political at the start or not, the HHNHH signs were co-opted as a political statement toward Trump as noted in the previous Reston Now article on the subject. They multiplied in direct response to Trump and are being used as a political sign that is in direct conflict with RA guidelines.

            Whether you and I agree or disagree with the guidelines is irrelevant. The rules are what they are. While I think the signs are stupid and show the ignorant intolerance of the left, I don’t have a particular issue with them, but much as I dislike the DRB townhouse gestapo-like enforcement, I realize the main goal is to stop people from painting their attached house Neon pink and this guideline is to prevent your wack job neighbor from putting a 6ft “Obama is the Devil” sign or 300 “George Bush was right” signs in his yard in perpetuity.

          • John Farrell

            Are you denying that Drumpf made appeals to bigotry, racism, alt. right and xenophobia an integral part of his campaign and has at least three proponents of those views in his administration. Seriously?

          • Greg

            “Drumpf” Grow up.

          • John Farrell

            That’s the family’s name on the immigration documents.

          • Greg

            Grow up.

          • John Farrell

            Do you object to that name?

            Or that they changed it?

          • Greg

            Another pivot fail…For shame.

          • Yes

            Yes, I seriously deny he “made appeals to bigotry, racism, alt. right and xenophobia” – because I define those things differently from you. But our respective front yards are no place to debate that difference of political opinion.

          • John Farrell

            You’d be in a very small universe of people who make such a denial.

          • Greg

            Again with your baseless, biased opinions. For shame.

          • Mike M

            Add me.

          • Nah

            That sign IS overtly political. Go ahead and express your feelings on the back of your Prius, but keep the junk off the front lawn.

          • Greg

            Amen!

          • Drip

            Interesting that you automatically deride me (and others) as a Ken Plum-esque liberal just for supporting this lady’s sign… As an assault rifle owning, combat veteran, meat-eating, gas-fueled car owning muckity-muck, I disagree with your characterization and am more than happy to express my feelings, even to support people whose politics I don’t necessarily agree with when I think they are getting unreasonably picked on. I just think the HOA should leave the lady alone and let her display the sign.

          • John Farrell

            The guidelines expressly permit such expression.

            Don’t like it – change the guidlines.

          • John Farrell

            RR signs advocated for government action. How is that not political?

            Epstein’s signs bigotry; which neighbors are being called hateful? Are there neighbors advocating bigotry?

          • Scott

            Seriously john. If you don’t understand the difference between partisan electoral politics and advocating a position on an administrative govt issue, then there is no reason to continue this discussion.

          • John Farrell

            Oh, Scott, as a land use attorney for more than 40 years, I know very well that the Rescue Reston movement was extraordinarily political as do the members of Rescue Reston.

            If you can’t run with the big dogs, stay on the porch.

          • Mike M

            I always get a kick out of how lawyers assume they are the smartest people in the room when they are often the most narrowly educated and experienced. Reminds me of President Obama.

          • Jason Rubinstein

            I always get a kick out of anonymous people who post insulting and unsunbstantive statements about their neighbors as a retirement plan

          • Mike M

            ???

          • Greg

            How do you know no one filed a complaint about them?

          • John Farrell

            Ask Rescue Reston for yourself.

          • Greg

            Pivot much? How do you know?

            More to the point, how would RR know?

          • John Farrell

            The members displaying the signs would have communicated any complaints received to the RR leadership. Duh.

          • Greg

            Wrong — RR is not RA. Next?

          • Oy

            Someone broke the rules and got away with it, so everyone should be allowed to break the rules now?

          • John Farrell

            Its a legal doctrine called waiver. If the rules aren’t uniformly and vigorously enforce they are waived.

      • Mike M

        Makes you wonder why they do! Doth they protest too much?

        • Jason Rub

          Show your face and use your real name

          • Mike M

            No.

      • Scott

        You are obviously a trump loving racist 🙂

        • John Farrell

          The orange donut made appeals to bigotry, racism, alt right and other forms of hate an integral part of his campaign and has at least two champions of those worldviews on his White House staff.

          Rejection of those ideologies is not an indictment of all of his supporters.

          • Scott

            Tell that to the main stream media or vagina-hatted protesters who attack anyone who didn’t vote for Hillary as a bigoted mysoginist and then put up passive-aggressive signs calling their neighbors hateful.

          • John Farrell

            Feel free to tell them you reject bigotry, racism, alt right and other forms of hate.

          • Scott

            As a non-leftist, I don’t fee the need to put signs in my yard or start a fight, but I am happy to debate the philosophical and legal appropriateness of such actions. Too many people are driven by emotion and don’t understand the legal structures of issues.

          • Rick

            Hate has no home here John. Please have respect for the office of the Presidency. Your hate and name calling is offensive.

          • John Farrell

            Ridiculing the occupant of that office is a tradition as old as the Constitution.

        • Chkitout1

          Ah poor baby, still not over Hillary getting stomped last November and the sign in your front yard isn’t helping so now you resort to name calling. Grow up loser.

    • John Farrell

      Per the RA sign guidlines, if its not political, then, it cannot exceed 1′ x 1′ without DRB approval.

      If it is political, then, there cannot be more than 2 signs and each sign cannot exceed 2′ x 3′, without DRB approval.

      The Rescue Reston signs are a perfect analogy here. They were up for more than a year but seemed to come down soon after the court ruling. The Covenants staff had to have seen them in their travels and brought no enforcement action. Thus, an argument could be made that this guideline has been waived through lack of enforcement.

      The First Amendment doesn’t apply because RA is not an official government (though it functions like one in most respects according to most political scientists who study the issue).

      Also remember, that as with most restrictive covenants, they will be narrowly construed against the party seeking to enforce them.

      • Donald

        Interesting. Kudos to the Rescue Reston folks in getting away with that. Appears precedent is there.

      • Feh

        Thus, an argument could be made that this guideline has been waived through lack of enforcement.

        You could probably find an example of lack of consistent, timely enforcement for every single guideline. By this logic, then, we would very quickly have no more Reston, just a free-for-all where everyone does whatever they want.

        • John Farrell

          It would have to be as wide-spread as the RR signs were.

  • HuffPost

    RestonNow is fast becoming the new HuffingtonPost

    • cRAzy

      No, just its readers are (and have been for 50 years).

      • Mike M

        Never read it.

        • Jason Rub

          Valuable insight.

  • vdiv

    Let’s throw in a few more sticks into the fire, a little narrow-minded single track cause and effect chain (with possible loops on the way):

    death <- suffering <- violence <- hate <- fear <- ignorance <- dogma <- religion <- superstition <- human flaws

    Why, or why, do we make things so complicated?

    • Well

      The “complicated” part is that we don’t all agree how to define
      suffering
      violence
      hate
      fear
      ignorance
      dogma
      superstition

      And really I don’t think someone’s front yard is the right place to resolve the dispute.

      • Susan Rathgeber

        Surely the right place is Congress, no? Oh, wait….

      • vdiv

        There’s no wrong place, this is too important to skirt. People will not be silent, nor silenced.

  • Patrick

    Poor snowflake. She should move and stop trying to influence others with her politics.

    • Jason Rub

      Hahahaha the idea that love is better than hate” is a politic very good Patrick, did you learn the term snowflake recently or did you know Toni Lahren as a friend’s niece

      • Mike M

        New signs:

        1) Debt addiction has no home here.

        2) Personal responsibility lives here.

        3) My opinions are rooted in logic!

  • Alas

    Liberals are sooooo disappointed that it wasn’t a white guy who killed the Muslim girl because then it would have been a hate crime and the liberals could wallow in a satisfying orgy of delicious self-righteousness and virtue preening.

    • Jason Rub

      Yes liberals are very disappointed that the murder didn’t go their way and you are not at all smug as all heck that the murder did go yours

      • Mike M

        Reality is on our side. That’s the point.

        • Jason Rubinstein

          Wow with your empty platitude I am convinced of your superiority and beg your forgiveness Live Laugh Love

  • Wings!!

    Do you think RA would allowed a “Reston Needs a Hooters” sign in her front yard? Because, Reston needs a Hooters.

    #HootersForReston

    • Mike M

      What’s the GoT angle on this issue?

    • Scott

      Get a ballot referendum going!!

  • The rest is history

    Nietzsche went shopping and saw a horse getting beaten. He then had a meltdown and died.

    Happy ending only for philosophy majors.

  • Cms

    It’s very different to put a sign up for a few weeks for an election vs turning your front yard into a permanent advertisement. Also, I doubt a “non-political” sign with opposite sentimates would be allowed. You chose to live in Reston. If you want random junk in your yard – move. Or – compromise – put the sentiment on a flag (like a pride flag or don’t tread on me). Same message minus the tacky yard sign.

    • i saw the sign

      I think this makes the most sense. If there is no regulation to decorative flags on houses, go this route. Display your message but comply with the rules that we all have agreed to by moving into a community with covenants.

      • John Farrell

        Clever

  • aleopold59

    What’s the fine or penalty for not removing the sign?

    • Greg

      Injunction. Cluster or RA or both could (each) assess $50 a day.

  • OldHuntersWood

    In Orchard Green at least, a sign saying “Hate Indeed Has a Home Here” would identify a Republican household. Right?

    • RestonAssurance

      No, I would say a hateful person.

    • Mike M

      That is PRECISELY what this sign is about! It is overtly political and only saps don’t get that. Most of the people planting these know that!

      • Jason Rub

        No one is making this a republican – democrat issue but the republicans and it’s weird you’re all falling into the trap tbh also stop hiding behind that boring avatar you’ve had for years

        • Mike M

          The intent of the sign is just that.

          Stop asking for my name and and picture. You’ll never get it. Tha rationale has been explained. Stop hiding. Stop hiding behind the ad hominem.

  • Richard

    Reston Association doesn’t object to the message. They’re just applying the rules that all the homeowners agreed to. If you want to change the rules to allow signs all over Reston, gather up your friends and lobby the RA board to change the rule. Easy as that. But how badly do you really want to open up the rules to permit chintzy lawn signs all around Reston, regardless of the message?

    • Susan Rathgeber

      Soooo, if the sign was given to her from an organization with Liberal, Democrat-leaning politics, how about this…. Could she go and get her own version of the sign printed? And then post THAT in her yard? At least, if she herself is not a political organization? What if she designed her own logo? How about if she had 100 of the signs printed, but none were more than 1 square foot???? That would follow the rules.

      • I saw the sign

        Exactly. If the sign followed the rules this wouldn’t be an issue. Proudly display a 1 SF version of the sign in your yard.

        • Rikki Susan Epstein

          I proudly plan to display a smaller sign that conforms to the size requirement. However my cluster association still indicates they will have an issue with it because they perceive it as a “political” sign.

          • Mike M

            The sign came from the DNC. It is a part of their brainwashing plan to declare everyone who wants immigration control to be declared a hater and everyone who sips their soup to self declare as righteous. It’s an insidious sign. Oh, and apparently in it’s current dimensions not approved. The fact the it comes from the DNC ensures it is POLiTICAL!

          • Jason Rub

            Yes, this is the most political thing we’ve seen since deciding if strawberries or raspberries would make a better red for our Fourth of July cheesecake Mike we have to do something drastic and soon

          • Mike M

            Is the DNC POLITICAL?

          • John Higgins

            Good for you, Rikki. Unsolicited opinion: let’s be candid; the sign is “politically motivated”. Fine. Nothing wrong with that and no cluster board should concern itself with one’s motives. Where they err is in applying the everyday definition of “political” out of context to the word’s use in the design standards. Words are known by the company they keep. That section of the standards discusses signs related to political campaigns. If the slogan HHNHH were adopted by a candidate for office, they might have a case. Until then, you should win. My hope is that that we will not be seeing a proliferation of a variety of 1′ x 1′ signs on scores of topics. Burma Shave.

          • John Farrell

            If its political, then your current sign complies with the guidelines.

      • Richard

        Political signs aren’t allowed, whether they are made by the individual or not. Only allowed during election times. This non-political sign was rejected solely because of its size.

        • John Farrell

          Political signs are specifically allowed in the guidelines. They aren’t limited to election times. See Rescue Reston signs.

          The guidelines only say when the sign must be removed; not when they may be present.

          Restrictive covenants are usually narrowly construed against those who would enforce them.

    • John Farrell

      The sign complies with the guidelines.

  • Susan Rathgeber

    Town of Reston has just confirmed for us all, that Hate is a political stance, disavowed primarily by those annoying, whiny Democrats. If HATE were not a political issue, then denouncing it would clearly be appropriate on BOTH sides of the political spectrum, making this sign “not political” in nature. Since this sign and it’s purported value are deemed partisan, we could reasonably conclude that the Town of Reston believes Republicans value Hate.

    • Greg

      Reston isn’t a town. Next?

      • vdiv

        Then it has no enforcing power and we’re all peachy. Oh, it does! Then it is a flipping town. Call it whatever you want. It’s a joke.

        • Greg

          Hate much?

          • vdiv

            It’s part of a complete breakfast.

        • John Higgins

          There is, indeed, enforcement power. As with all provisions of the Reston deed, having found a violation, the RA can record a notice of violation in the county’s land records. The cost of recording and later removing it is at the member’s expense. Not that it makes sense here, but for egregious violations or if RA wants to send a strong message to the membership, it can ask a court to enjoin the party from continued (or repeated) violations. The penalty for ignoring such an order is up to the court. Town status or not, we agreed to “self-govern”. I don’t see the joke.

          • vdiv

            Look in the mirror. We are the joke.

          • Mike M

            Speak for yourself, Madame.

          • Jason Rub

            She 150% speaks for you

          • vdiv

            She’s a he. 😉

          • Jason Rubinstein

            It’s 2017 sir, you’re a she now

          • vdiv

            Right… Or something! 🙂

          • Jason Rubinstein

            Forgive me for assuming that because you had sense you might be the smarter of the sexes

          • Mike M

            Because you say so? Because you said 150%. Time to up your debate.

          • vdiv

            Your implicit bias shows through. You can drop the Madame, it doesn’t apply.

          • Mike M

            But, but, gender doesn’t matter!

        • Um

          HOAs can enforce their rules without being a town.

    • RestonAssurance

      Exactly, Susan. Even if the sign were to conforming size they would still make a big stink about it (the stern commenters). Hateful rhetoric and ideology is the norm for them.

  • Timewasters

    The DRB relies in a complaint driven process to further their agenda and as such they have been used like tools to sort out petty beef on Wiehle’s old farm.

    The latest now, the DRB panelists become engaged in a political spat at the expense of the community who pays for these jaded debates. Earlier this week it was Orca.

    Where does this take us?

  • Greg

    The rules are the rules. The boat was too big and has to go, just like this sign. Take it down.

    • The Spirit Bear

      Rules are oppressive and unnecessary. They are the polar opposite of freedom. Free speech is a right. If it was me, I’d put a 20 foot x 20 foot version of it and see how they like that.

      • Edward Calvert

        I think that’s a sign issue, not the 1st. Someone said RA would fine you 50 bucks a day and lien your house lol

      • Oy

        Everyone who voluntarily moved to Reston agreed to abide by those “oppressive and unnecessary” rules. If you want total freedom, go find some unincorporated land to live on (and even there, there will be SOME rules). Free speech rights do not apply here. If you put up a monster sign, you would be forced to remove it.

      • Greg

        Then change the (binding) rules. Or, go live in Somalia. Not many rules there…you can post as many giant signs as you can.

        And, again, study up on your rights. No government is impinging in her speech rights — the very rules she signed on to be bound by are. And that’s neither illegal nor impinging on her rights.

    • John Farrell

      The guidelines allow politcal signs to be 2′ x 3′. Hers is smaller.

      • Richard

        She claims it is a non-political sign. Seems non-political to me.

        • John Farrell

          Then she gets a 1′ x 1′ sign. But the cluster says its political. In which case her present sign is fine.

          Heads she wins, tails the cluster loses.

  • Conservative Senior

    The killing was not a hate crime. The accused is an illegal who should have been deported. This is what happens with open borders & sanctuary cities & counties.

    • Jason Rub

      Show your real face, use your real name

    • Greg

      Somehow dear Rikki failed to comprehend that her elected leaders have, in no uncertain terms, declared that Fairfax County is not a sanctuary county.

      Albeit buried at the bottom in very small print, but declare they did:

      Fairfax County is not a Sanctuary County or Sanctuary City.

      It is important to note that the term “sanctuary county” or (more commonly) “sanctuary city” is not a legal term, and therefore the term means different things to different people. Generally, the term sanctuary city is given to cities in the United States or Canada that have policies designed to shelter illegal immigrants. The term generally applies to cities that do not allow municipal funds or resources to be used to enforce federal immigration laws, usually by not allowing police or municipal employees to inquire about an individual’s immigration status.

      The Fairfax County Board of Supervisors has not designated Fairfax County as a sanctuary county. In fact, a review shows no indication that the board has taken any action that could be interpreted as making Fairfax County a sanctuary county. County agencies and officials strive to comply with all federal requirements to determine an individual’s immigration status.

      http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/news/2017/immigrants.htm

  • Why do you bother?

    My new sign: MAKE BIGOTRY SHAMEFUL AGAIN.

    • Mike M

      My new sign: Disagreement is not hate, snowflake.

      • Jason Rub

        Man o man, we really are blessed to have you Mike I’m really glad we can agree to disagree on how much of a bigot you are

      • John Farrell

        1) But using “snowflake” as a pejorative is.

        2) you wish

  • Claudia Sherman

    It would be nice to have the same message displayed as a yard flag. I do not think that could be banned.

    • John Higgins

      Note, this was a cluster issue. Private parties may agree to prohibit the display of signs and flags (except the American flag) within the borders of their commonly regulated property. This is not a First Amendment issue, the rule is content-neutral. If folks want to permit neighbors to fly school flags, pro sports team flags, or promote whatever message they wish, there is a mechanism to do that (cluster documents). Where it gets somewhat tricky is selective approval of content. Ban the medium but not the message, and I’m okay with it. Allow the medium, but approve only the messages the majority finds acceptable, and we have an issue.

      • The Dude

        Finally someone who understands why the 1st Amendment has zero to do with this. The ignorance on display in so many of these responses is troubling.

        • Jason Rub

          At this point it’s not about the first amendment it’s about commenters who are sad and need a hug

        • Greg

          He’s a lawyer; he’s paid to know.

          • John Farrell

            No, he’s not a lawyer. He’s smarter than that.

      • John Farrell

        Cluster documents rarely address these issues, relying on the RA guidelines. Further, cluster docs cannot contradict RA guidelines.

  • TheKingJAK

    Per the people behind the campaign for these signs, and quoted from Epstein’s post:

    “The “Hate Has No Home Here” project promotes just and inclusive communities by encouraging neighbors to declare their homes, schools, businesses, and places of worship to be safe places where everyone is welcome and valued.”

    Be careful what you wish for. If you truly believe that everyone is welcome and valued, then don’t be surprised when your residence is ransacked, your neighborhood trashed, and your community destroyed. I certainly hope that you and others realize that a good deal of the world and its values do not belong here. Ironically, it’s some peoples open acceptance which ultimately leads to their own downfall. Be kind to others, help your neighbors, and don’t judge people based upon aspects of their lives which they have no control over, but absolutely be willing to draw a line somewhere regarding what is and isn’t acceptable in our society. Saying that “Hate isn’t acceptable” is far too often a misguided attempt to silence those who are willing to draw that very line which protects our society, and it’s naive. Of course I cannot claim that everybody who believe in “Acceptance” is naive about it, but in the modern political sense it often takes on an extreme element of such.

    • vdiv

      Good job with the fear-mongering!
      You should make a sign 😉

    • Mike M

      Certain native Americans made the same argument. Whither they and their people? No conozco!

      • Jason Rub

        Hahahahahaha so you should probably get out

        • Mike M

          Born here. Will die here, defending it if necessary. You really wouldn’t understand.

          • Jason Rubinstein

            But you just admitted it’s not your land, but that of native Americans… ?

          • Mike M

            Oh no, junior. The lad. Elongated to those who can keep it. They failed. We should not repeat their mistake. IQ check?

          • Jason Rubinstein

            Wow no yeah ok you’re a monster bye

    • Jason Rub

      Hahahah “be kind to others, and don’t judge people based upon aspects of their lives they have no control over” you mean like being brought here as a child or living in a perpetual cycle of poverty. I completely agree with you that immigrants who come to this country to do farming and construction are secretly plotting to take away your RA pool pass by force

    • John Farrell

      Here is a perfect example of a reducio absurdem.

  • Oh Good Grief

    Simple solution: make new “hate has no home here” signs that fit the sign size guideline. The standard exists. It’s real. We live in a planned community with rules and regs, which isn’t the best place to live if you hate that.

    This is not about this particular sign. It’s about having to implement the standard fairly.

    As for being solely Democrat sign, does that mean the Republican version would be “hate has a home here?” {tongue firmly in cheek}

    • Mike M

      No, but is the vector of the brainwashing. Worked on you!

      • Jason Rub

        No one has put forward this viewpoint except you to make a bad argument worse sir

        • Mike M

          I am used to being right and alone. Could you handle it? Again, refute the argument not the man weakling.

    • John Farrell

      It already meets the guidelines.

    • RestonAssurance

      It appears according to the adversarial comments that that is what is wished for by these individuals.

  • JB

    The subject matter of the sign doesn’t matter. Whether it’s political doesn’t matter. Whether the sentiment is caring or about pink flamingos is inconsequential. It’s the size of the sign that violates a guideline. It’s not complicated. And it’s easy enough to have smaller signs made.

    • John Farrell

      The sign is smaller than the RA Guidelines allow.

  • Phil Lilienthal

    Now that the parking issue has slowed down, it is interesting to have another issue that will project Reston into the news. How could a sign that has no candidate attached to it and no party affiliation be political in the sense that it can or should be banned? If the Democrats were giving the sign to people, they adopted it; they didn’t create it. It would be nice for the Republicans to do the same. I see a lawsuit around the corner.

    • Mike M

      The GOP did not issue signs that say “Gratuitously un-American values are not welcome her.”

      • Jason Rub

        I still don’t think you fully understand how analogies work tbh

        • Mike M

          I think I understand far more than you do. You have yet to post a cogent argument. Just name calling and sending my name. You are clearly a punk.

      • Phil Lilienthal

        Sorry, Mike, if I implied otherwise. I meant to say that the sign came first and its promotion/endorsement by the Democrats came much later. Does this make it a political sign? Wouldn’t it be great if the Republicans gave them away, too? Is there a downside? Pres. Trump advocates a better America. This is completely in keeping with it. It seems to me like it should be a non-controversial expression of one’s humanity and a means of making people feel welcome. It is not an advocacy position and if people read that into it, it doesn’t change the character of the sign. Calling a dog a cow doesn’t make it so and wouldn’t lead to dogs being banned in areas where keeping cows is prohibited.

        • RestonAssurance

          Thank you.

        • Mike M

          If one party gives them out, they are political. The downside is the implication that if you are for immigration control you are a hater. Oh, and the clutter. Wouldn’t it be fabulous if the GOP gave out signed that read Wife beaters are not welcome here? No. It would be stupid!

      • RestonAssurance

        That’s the exact hateful rhetoric the sign in question brought to our attention. The political name calling, beratings, and the infighting is what is un-American.
        As a side note, DT is president only because voters didn’t come out in the numbers that they had the last 2 elections. He won by default, he’s not the vote of any majority. Both candidates were terrible.

  • Nanuchka

    Said it before, will say it again: Best view of Reston is in your car’s rear view mirror.

    • John Farrell

      Bye

  • meyerweb

    Guess Reston doesn’t really understand the point of the first amendment.

    • John Higgins

      Friend, I understand and sympathize with where you are coming from, but this is not a “freedom of speech” issue. If the non-conforming sign were 6 ft x 6 ft, I doubt there would be more than fringe support for placing such a sign on one’s front lawn. It was a size issue, pure and simple. While not as readably available as the Bill of Rights, Reston’s design standards are not that hard to find or comprehend. It might not have occurred to Ms. Epstein to look at those standards before posting the sign. But once the standard was brought to her attention, her course of action is clear: comply and, if she feels strongly that the standard should be changed, she can set that proposal in motion.

      • John Farrell

        Her signs comply with the guidelines for political signs.

        • Nope

          So, she removed them a week after the election?

          • John Farrell

            Which election?

    • Greg

      Apparently neither do you.

  • 30yearsinreston

    Storm in a teacup
    Lets discuss BPX paid parking and The lake white elephant

  • The Spirit Bear

    This is just one example of why HOAs are insidious. No individual nor group thereof has any right to force their will, their beliefs, or their opinions upon any other individual or group thereof. I would not live in a neighborhood which tried to impose rules upon residents. Basically, if you don’t like the sign, then don’t look at it. That goes for cars in front yards, overgrown trees, the color an individual decides to paint their house, etc. This is still America, last time I checked.

    • Greg

      Look up “covenant.” Preferably in a legal dictionary. Then study “contract.”

      No one is forced to live in Reston and all who do, do so willingly and with full disclosure of the covenants.

      While the covenants can change, and they have, it’s still a matter of free choice to live in Reston and be bound by its covenants. Every property owner is and has been since the first one sold in the mid 1960s.

  • Mike M

    Let’s do a little exploratory psychology here. Let’s ask why anyone would feel the need to post such a sign. What is that really about? I know the pathetic answer. But I’d love to hear from the snowflake activists.

    • Jason Rub

      Hahahahaha let’s do a little exploratory psychology here too, what happened in your childhood that made you so paranoid and sad also show us your face and use your full name if you really have any convictions beyond the smugness your computer’s keyboard affords you

      • Mike M

        Well boy, when you have a family and own property you would rather not expose it to angry punks. It’s a man thing. You wouldn’t understand.

        • Jason Rubinstein

          Yes it’s a manly thing to hide your identify and snark and sneer at your neighbors as a past time what a big strong anonymous man you are lmao

          • Mike M

            Dude, it’s about the logic in your argument. It matters not who makes it. Snark? Sneer? I guess you are out of your league. Come back when you are a grown man.

    • John Farrell

      Hey, dewdrop. What’s wrong with expressing opposition to bigotry, racism, alt. right and xenophobia?

      Especially in Reston which was founded on the principal of inclusion of all racial and ethnic groups at a time when restrictive racial covenants, though unconstitutional, were still standard practice in Northern Virginia developments.

      GE would not lend Simon money unless he agreed to impose them. So he went to Mellon and that’s how we got the Gulf as stations.

      These signs are consistent with the very essence of Reston and ought to be place next to every big green “Reston” sign.

      • Easy

        “What’s wrong with expressing opposition to bigotry, racism, alt. right and xenophobia?”

        I don’t want to see your political opinions in your front yard, period.

        “Minimizing intrusion in the visual environment” is very Reston.

        • Greg

          This is quite true. Even Reston-deed-bound outdoor lights have to be so shielded and directed that their beams illuminate nearly nothing.

          And, wasteful, inefficient and obsolete incandescent lighting is preferred. Imagine that!

        • John Farrell

          Then change he guidelines to so provide.

      • Mike M

        Your history is bad and irrelevant in 2017 as Reston is being transformed comprehensively. Is spousal abuse and accepted here? Shall we all post signage to proclaim? These sign are hate statements. They we designed by the DNC to divide.

        • John Farrell

          What part of the history is bad: I’ve seen the racial covenants reorded in the land records in the 1960s. I heard the GE/Gulf story directly from Simon and the people who were working with him at the time.

          Reston is hardly being “comprehensively transformed.” More like changes around the periphery.

          The signs oppose hate and weren’t designed by the DNC.

          • Mike M

            Simon left because they were ‘t following his layout ideals. What stayed within his plan failed. Yes, Reston is being gutted. The DNC’s issuance of these signs shows they are political and intended to support the narrative that non-Democrats are haters.

          • John Farrell

            Simon was forced out long after GE turn him down for financing.

            It was Gulf who forced him out.

            The DNC has nothing to do with these signs.

          • Mike M

            They were giving them out!

          • John Farrell

            Not the DNC. Have you ever been to the Farmer’s Market at Lake Anne?

          • Mike M

            Yes. And that is who is giving these crude and divisive and self-righteous banners out.

  • Jason Rub

    Show us the numbers.Along with your face and real name

  • Jason Rub

    You are the only one in Reston who really gets it, I see that now, I can’t believe I ever fell for all that “love thy neighbor”
    Nonsense

    • Mike M

      I thought I heard a pop! I’ll bet a lot of things are clearer now that your head is out.

  • Anonymous Poster

    HOA rules aside, I think we can all agree that democrats are just horrible people.

  • Donald

    I suspect this may ultimately find its way over to the RA board. Can’t wait to see how those nine people deal with this.

    Donald

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