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Bike, Pedestrian Safety on Glade Drive To Be Topic of County DOT Public Meeting

by Dave Emke — April 5, 2017 at 2:45 pm 168 Comments

Proposed safety improvements for Glade Drive will be the topic of discussion at a Fairfax County Department of Transportation community meeting later this month.

The meeting on bicycle, pedestrian and traffic safety improvements is scheduled for Thursday, April 27 from 6:30-8:30 p.m. at Hunters Woods Elementary School (2401 Colts Neck Road). The discussion will revolve around “proposed changes and addition of multi-modal features to the street design of Glade Drive,” according to information provided by Fairfax County Supervisor Cathy Hudgins’ office.

FCDOT held a similar community meeting last month to discuss adding bike lanes, crosswalks and road diets on Colts Neck Road, North Shore Drive and Twin Branches Road. That meeting saw a great deal of reaction, positive and negative, from community members. The FCDOT presentation from that meeting is available through the county website.

The work is being proposed on roadways that are scheduled for repaving this year by the Virginia Department of Transportation. Project manager Adam Lind, FCDOT’s Bicycle Program manager, said at last month’s meeting that the work would improve safety for all users of the roads not just by adding crosswalks and bike lanes, but by cutting down on speeding. Lind said the work would be done at no additional cost as part of the normal re-striping process.

  • Mike M

    Money-saving solution:
    Cut the FCDOT Bicycle Program manager position. End of problem. Idle hands are the devil’s workshop!
    PS: Reston has one of the best and most dense bike trail networks on the planet. We need to allocate precious road space to bikes like we need a hole our heads.

    • LisaR

      Really? How would you bike from south reston to the W&OD trail on this network you claim exists?

      • Mike M

        Depends upon where you start. But from the South Lakes Shopping Center go under the tunnel to east. Down the hill to Barton Hill. Down Sunrise valley to the W&OD.

        • LisaR

          Have you ever tried this in reverse with groceries? Have you tried this at night? Have you ever even been on a bike?

          • Mike M

            You are correct. Moving groceries by bike across suburbia is a really impractical thing. The again, you don’t take groceries TO the grocery store.

          • Jeff Anderson

            Call me crazy but those that go to the Giant on bike usually have figured out a way to get stuff home. Don’t assume they are buying food for a month. Maybe they just want milk. That fits in a back pack.

            Look – you’ve already said you don’t want us and our bikes on the road, hidden under the guise of our own safety using the laws of physics. We understand that but that’s our decision not yours.

          • LisaR

            He didn’t understand the question. He thinks people would only ride down the hill to Barton Oaks but not ever have to ride back up. It’s more convenient for him to spout his opinion they are unsafe rather than recognize their legal right to be there.

          • Jeff Anderson

            They don’t want to recognize that VA law gives bikes that right…..they’d rather repeal faster than a duck on a june bug. And their concern is about their own insurance and property…not to their neighbor who has chosen to go car free for lots of reasons: health, no property tax, freedom, costs, etc.

          • LisaR

            Impractical? For some people, it’s a reality. Projects like these make it safer for them to do something they have the legal right to do. But you don’t want them there, you have made that clear. You’d rather call them names because you don’t like it. So productive.

    • Amy Sue

      Reston has a lot of bike trails, yes, but I think they were developed more in the interest of providing leisurely walking/biking spaces rather than for commuters. If you decide to commute with your bike, which is as valid a way to get around as a car is, it is difficult or impossible to safely go from North to South Reston or even from the North Hills area of Reston to the Wiehle metro only on bike trails. The trails drop off, are poorly maintained so as to be extremely dangerous (i.e. the trail on Wiehle avenue), or don’t exist. Additinally, because of the way many of the trails are structures (as sidewalks instead of trails), it can be extremely dangerous to bike on them because turning cars don’t yield the right of way. I’m no fan of arrogant bikers whom I sometimes run into but the nice bike folks who just want to commute need consideration.

      • Mike M

        I would tell you that people who commute on bikes the roads in the dark are suicidal. We don’t need to back them up with more investment. they are a tiny minority and they are behaving recklessly. It is simply not safe to ride with cars in Suburban USA.

        • Jeff Anderson

          So why isn’t adding bike lanes making it ‘safer’? Giving them space.

          I don’t understand this anti-bike sentiment. It’s not a nuclear waste dump or even that transfer station they wanted to install on Hunter Mill Road. It’s simply paint on the ground. Everyone will survive just fine and in no time it will be the new normal, or is that what really scares you.

          A woman at another bike lane meeting last nite made the comment that she drives better around cyclists when bike lanes or sharrows are on the road. She recognizes this is a known route for cyclists. It helps keep everyone safe.

          • Mike M

            No, Jeff. They are taking from the vast majority to give to a tiny minority. Then there are the laws of physics. A painted line will not protect a biker from a car. It will only encourage bikers to pretend they are safe driving next to cars at rush hour. Also, bikers have a very bad rep because of the behavior of more than a few,.

          • Really.

            Adding bike lanes to “your” road doesn’t take away space for cars. It’s not pie. You still have your vast majority space for cars. Cars lose nothing. You don’t lose travel lanes and you don’t lose parking. You think people who bike have a bad rep? All drivers speed. Most drivers ignore stop signs. Most drivers use distracting devices that lead to crashes. Most drivers don’t get charged or fined when they hit, hurt or kill pedestrians and bicyclists. And most drivers don’t know the actual laws that govern our streets. So go cry me a river about 2 feet of a 14 foot wide travel lane getting some paint for not a car.

          • Mike M

            If they take a lane, which they did on Lawyers, they are taking from the many to pander to a few.

          • Really.

            If drivers really want less congestion and open roads, put bike lanes everywhere. More people on bikes = less people in cars = more open roads for drivers. 100 people in a car in front of you will cause much more delay (and cost government more) than 100 people on bikes.

          • Mike M

            Fantasy land. Just because you ride a bike doesn’t mean a significant portion of the driving population will do so. As for the 100 bikers, I’ve seen what the Reston club does to traffic when they are on the road. They have done a lot of damage to all your names.

          • Really.

            I hear your opinion, it’s wildly uninformed. There are literally dozens of research reports that prove bike lanes get more people to bike. Bike lanes are safer and cheaper and more enjoyable for all. Here is one of the many, many reports you can find with 2 seconds of Google searching – http://nacto.org/2016/07/20/high-quality-bike-facilities-increase-ridership-make-biking-safer/

          • Mike M

            Gee, I guess I’m not obsessed with biking like the three main defenders in here. It is fantasy to think that adding bike lanes will meaningfully ease traffic. What from .04% to .042% of commuters? It is lunacy to think that encouraging bikers onto the roads at rush hour will not result in more strikes.

          • Really.

            Lunacy or a well-researched, widely-proven worldwide fact that bike lanes protect riders and get people out of cars. Call it whatever you want, won’t change the facts and will not change those of us “obsessed” with getting to point a to b safely without a car.

          • Mike M

            This is not a city. It is suburbia. Designed for cars. Not bikes. Painting stripes won’t change that. This is also the Mid Atlantic USA. Winter and peak summer weather, and rainfall are not conducive to bike commuting. Neither is the distributed geography of workplaces and homes.

          • Really.

            How about you let people who bike decide what’s conducive for biking, mmkay? And don’t forget that just because you think you live in the burbs that everyone has the means and ability to drive. The road is for all, not just you and your preferred travel mode.

          • Mike M

            Again. These roads were designed for cars. That’s a simple fact. It is not up to you and your biker pals to change that at everyone else’s expense. Again, you are being reckless getting on these roads at rush hour.

          • Really.
          • Mike M

            Well then. I guess that settles it.

          • Mike M

            No. The road was designed for cars. Cars and bikes together are a danger to the bikers.

          • Jeff Anderson

            Oh the joy….back to Lawyers Road. 70% reduction in car crashes. Car crashes!!! I guess we should go back to the good old days huh? That road is much safer for all.

          • Jeff Anderson

            Mike – I never seen you drive a car but I can only guess you are awful at it because I’ve seen so many other bad drivers. Does that statement make any sense? No it doesn’t. Understand that the bad driver could also be a bad cyclist. It’s the person not the activity.

            Maybe if every one wasn’t in so much of a rush during rush hour a lot less crashes would happen.

            Nothing will protect a cyclist from bad driving, but adding bike infrastructure and reducing lane widths do slow traffic.

            If you really want to understand – ride in our shoes. We really aren’t so bad.

          • Mike M

            “Maybe if every one wasn’t in so much of a rush during rush hour a lot less crashes would happen.”

            You live in maybe land? I don’t. You attribute the danger to “bad” drivers. I attribute the danger to the fact that people make mistakes and the law of physics which means bikers will get clobbered!

          • Jeff Anderson

            Bikes aren’t going anywhere Mike. Their advocacy built the very roads you get to drive on. Get use to it. It’s like wishing the end of taxes.

            So using your argument, why do so many get to park on the public streets. Why can’t they park in their driveway?

          • Mike M

            You are way out in left field. Most of the roads I drive were wagon roads, or were built specifically for suburban development for automobiles. That’s a simple fact. That is the point! You point is not true nor relevant.

            Some roads around here (such as Route 50) were actually buffalo trails, Indian trails, then wagon trails.

            I have no beef with having people NOT park on the street. Not an issue that moves me. No one is in danger as a result of the policy.

          • Jeff Anderson

            The League began as the League of American Wheelmen (LAW) in 1880 — Newport, R.I. was the location of our founding meeting — and was responsible for defending the rights of cyclists from its start. The League of American Wheelmen is credited with getting paved roads in this country before the reign of the automobile. http://www.bikeleague.org/content/mission-and-history

            You trade in alt facts.

            What makes you the keeper of any cyclist who wants to ride his bike? Why are you so hung up in their well being?

          • Mike M

            Jeff, this is silly/ Clearly you are too close to biking and it has distorted your sense of priorities and values. If I were to show you how many roads in this area were improved for wagon traffic would you suggest that wagons are the cause of our improved roads and that we should all go back to wagons? There is no small degree of troglodyte in the back to bikes argument. Let’s say that 1905 is a dot in the REARVIEW MIRROR!”

          • Jeff Anderson

            Yeah it is silly. It’s some paint on the ground and you all are blowing up about it. It’s a bike lane. Every thing will be fine. Traffic on Glade will be unchanged.

            You all have turned this into some crazy debate about bikes don’t belong on roads, worrying about other peoples choices, transportation costs that are but pennies on the dollar when compared to roads, etc etc.

            As far as the League, just putting things in perspective. Bicycles contributed to the very road system we all use. Of course not ‘every road’. Of course Ford and his Model T would have looked to improve the wagon trails, cow paths.

          • Mike M

            Paint on the ground. Blood on the pavement.

          • Jeff Anderson

            Fairfax County is actually pretty safe compared to Montgomery County or pretty much anywhere in MD. Cyclists are big kids – we don’t need you worrying about us.

          • Mike M

            I’m not worried about you. I am worried about my bumper and my insurance.

          • Jeff Anderson

            You are digging your hole deeper with these comments.

          • LisaR

            You will never change Mike’s mind. He is a closed minded person who will come up with excuse after lame excuse to be against this.

          • Mike M

            Best to call names when you cannot address my points.

          • Mike M

            Lisa, you gonna change your mind, or is that everyone else’s role?

        • LisaR

          It is safe to share roads. Drivers own part of that equation too. Slow down and pay attention. Better yet, try going for a bike ride. You might like it. Or is your mind that closed?

          • Mike M

            I live in the realities of 2017 suburbia. Bikes will not get me where I need to go efficiently and safely.

  • Hank from Reston

    Riding a bike on Reston’s streets is a challenge and often dangerous – improvements are needed.

    • Mike M

      Riding a bike where cars drive is ALWAYS going to be a dangerous proposition. That’s the key, Hank.

      Many of these so-called improvements will:
      a) Make it more dangerous as bikers will be emboldened to do more dangerous things
      b) Shift unnecessary legal burdens to drivers
      c) Inconvenience the vast majority of us who realize the reality of our suburb – it was designed for cars!

      Suggestions:
      a) Use the many bike trails.
      b) Change your righteous lifestyle and drive as our environment has been built to accomodate.

      • HP

        I don’t own a car — how do you propose I get to the bike trails if I live off of Glade? Would you suggest I ride on the sidewalk?

        • Tammi Petrine

          HP, just as you have always done. Ride your bike on the street (Glade Dr.) as usual. Pedal where you need to go, on streets or on pathways. This should not be a battle between bikers and others but a shared solution which has worked beautifully for decades. Do not create a problem where none exists.

          • HP

            I don’t argue with you there, I don’t perceive there to be a problem b/t cyclists and drivers. Just merely challenging Mike M’s suggestion that I “Change your righteous lifestyle and drive as our environment has been built to accomodate.” If I could, I would drive, trust me.

          • Tammi Petrine

            HP, Sorry for anyone’s suggestion that you have no rights to safe bicycling or that going without a car is bad. We all need to support one another in a diverse and increasingly odd world.

          • Mike M

            You could.

        • Mike M

          Try the incredibly numerous bike trails.

          • Carol T

            We have to stop complaining to each other. The only possible way to stop this is to write or call Supervisors Bulova and Hudgins and tell them you don’t want any parking eliminated on Glade Dr. They aren’t listening to us. They’re listening to Mr.Lind who has his own agenda.

          • HP

            You miss the point, I need to ride on the street in order to get to the trails from where I live. See the conundrum? Not everyone can afford to own a car, so it’s not a lifestyle choice as you paint your broad strokes. I could care less if they put in bike lanes; I’ve gotten to where I need to without them just fine.

          • CGB

            People like Mike will never see the point. He would rather threaten cyclists and call them names. He will never open his mind. He also won’t be able to change the law of Virginia which does not agree with his views that cycling is legally permitted on Virginia’s roads. And if he hurts someone, and hopefully that never, ever happens, he may come to realize that he threatened cyclists on this comment thread in public.

      • Jeff Anderson

        Mike – The shift of legal burden has been happening in Richmond over the past several years. Namely new laws on the books:

        Giving bicyclists 3 feet with a sister law that allows motorists to cross the yellow line when safe if 3 ft doesn’t work

        Not following too closely – in one round sponsored by Barbara Comstock

        Dooring – Due care when opening your door.

        I’m sorry you think you have more burden than necessary when it comes to another human riding a bike while you drive your car and advocate for more cars. Given that position, I fully expect you to work with our legislators in Fairfax to convince the rural VA delegates to pass a hands-free law. Texting while driving kills and studies have shown it’s actually worse than DWI. I look forward to working with you next Jan in getting this done. In fact I’ll drive you down to Richmond to testify if you want. 8^)

        • Mike M

          Good, so encourage the reckless rising of bikes on roads at rush hour, then stick it to the drivers? Great.

          The three feet rule is very hard to live by and harder still to enforce. More la la land.

          • Jeff Anderson

            Yeah, that’s the secret plan made in back rooms at bike gatherings across the country. FTLOG.

            It’s not hard to live by if you respect the person on the bike and make an effort to not pass because you are in a rush. And yeah the bike lobby actually went back to the GA to work the issue of motorists not sure if they could cross the yellow line and enforcement, thus the sister law. Naturally if there is a bike lane that provides more space too, but you don’t want either.

            Of course enforcement in many instances is hard when there is no direct witness by a LE officer. However with many bikes carrying video camera’s have shown the evidence.

            Mike – if you have such issues why not bring them up at the HMTAC meeting. That forum could easily be one way to hash this stuff out. Or come to a FABB meeting and have a frank discussion with us. Want to go for a ride w/ me and see what we face. Let me know.

          • Mike M

            I want you and your bike off the road. See my other comments. I’ve been pretty clear.

          • Jeff Anderson

            Well that ain’t happening.

            Bring it up at the HMTAC and see how far you get.

            So much hate. Baffling.

          • CGB

            This sounds like you are making a threat towards cyclists. It’s pretty disappointing to see you direct so much hate towards people who share the community with you. I hope you can find a way to open your mind and realize you are talking about other people.

          • Mike M

            Yes, when snowflakes see disagreement, they see a threat. I see the biker’s movement to take from drivers as obnoxiously selfish.

          • Mike M

            Big kiss!

      • LisaR

        It’s only dangerous because drivers make it dangerous.

        • Mike M

          No. It’s only dangerous because if two cars bump, everyone is usually OK. But if a bike gets bumped by a car or vice versa, the biker will nearly always get hurt – potentially very seriously – maybe even killed. I see bikers run stop signs on the W&OD nearly every day. Biking on the roads at rush hour at dark is really dangerous.

          • LisaR

            Do you realize you just proved the point of the project? To lower speeds and make drivers aware that there are other users on the road. Users who have a legal right to be on that road, whether you like it or not. Take your toys and go home Mike- the rest of the kids on the playground can get along but you just can’t seem to get it.

          • Mike M

            The laws of physics trump their “legal right” to be there.

    • Greg
    • LisaR

      Yes, they are needed!

  • John Farrell

    Hudgins and Adam Lind will propose eliminating on-street parking on Glade to pander to the spandex bandits who insist that South Reston’s principal purpose is to serve as their open-air velodrome.

    That’s democracy for you. Inconvenience the majority to placate a special interest group representing 0.4% of all trips.

    • Jeff Anderson

      John….That’s fake news and a lie. FCDOT has NEVER proposed removing parking on Glade. Adam said so at the first meeting addressing this issue. FCDOT learned on street parking is a concern to local residents as a result of the bike lanes proposed on Sherwood Hall Lane back several years ago. Bike lanes were added and parking was protected. Interestingly, riders who regularly commute to DC on those lanes tell us that few cars are in those parking spaces. And since then every proposed bike lane meeting has taken the approach to NOT remove parking. Regardless of what FCDOT does, on April 1 2016, a dooring bill was signed into law. Parking is fine but it’s best to make sure no one is going to get hurt when you open your door.

      As far as your opinion about cyclists – it’s well known. It’s getting old.

    • LisaR

      Of course John is the first to comment on this. Spandex bandits!!!! Oh the humanity? John, maybe you could come to one of these meetings and ask questions constructively instead of just attending to hear yourself speak about the same tired worn-out unconstructive comments.

  • Greg

    Why on Earth do we have a “Bicycle Program manager” on the county’s ever expanding payroll?

    Seems to me that’s one very easy thing to cut without harming any of the so-called precious services the county insists it must provide everyone all the time.

  • Tammi Petrine

    WHAT are FDOT and our supervisor thinking??? We already had a meeting late fall, 2016 at Terraset Elementary where a huge majority of those present spoke up and said NO changes to Glade Drive. So Glade was removed from alteration agenda… or so we were lead to believe. What is this??? Divide and Conquer??? The community response to the first meeting was that Glade was inappropriate so now all of a sudden, why is Glade back on the front burner???

    STOP the harassment of residents who do NOT want designated bike lanes on their streets! VDOT? Are you listening? We need on-street parking along Glade for clusters, homes, playing fields, Nature Center, etc. We said NO in 2016. Why do we need to revisit this again in April, 2017? Yeah, we know, Mrs. Hudgins wants bike lanes everywhere. We do NOT. We pay the taxes. Just stop.

    We need to share the road with bikers who are our friends and neighbors. Well, we’ve been doing that just fine for 30 years. What is new now? You made your case for other streets; people expressed opinions at a meeting at Dogwood School on that several weeks ago but Glade was a done deal. Now it’s back? STOP and let us breathe! Life is stressful enough without this constant pushing to take us where we do not want to go.

    Save our tax money and improve our library system which we do want vs. striping our streets that we DO NOT WANT.

    • Jeff Anderson

      Tammi – FCDOT always said they were holding a separate meeting for Glade after the TerraSet one, because they heard the residents concerns. They wanted to hold a Glade only meeting because there were unique issues/concerns. And despite commentary and what the article implies, no parking is proposed to be taken away. FCDOT is trying to figure out how to used VDOT’s repaving to implement bike facilities – be it lanes or sharrows or signs. As far as paying taxes – this is no cost as VDOT already builds any stripping into their repaving budget. Again – NO COST. So schools, libraries, etc are not effected by adding paint to the road.

      • Abe S

        Jeff-

        Everything costs money. For example here there will be maintenance costs associated with keeping bike lanes clear (which they aren’t doing very well on Soapstone and ends up with bikes in the only available lane). In all honesty I have seen the large groups of bikers who use Glade at times and seriously doubt they will use the bike lane. They will continue to use the road as always so what would be the point.

        Your position is well know and it’s getting old.

      • Greg

        WRONG / FAKE NEWS: Who pays the likely six-figure+ payroll and benefits cost of Project manager Adam Lind, FCDOT’s Bicycle Program manager?

        Who pays for the FCDOT costs? Isn’t VDOT in charge of streets in unincorporated Fairfax County?

        Also, there are all kinds of costs, above and beyond the costs of the extra paint stripes that affect (not effect) and burden motorists and taxpayers. Among them, street decals, many extra signs, extra traffic-light loop loop sensors, and enforcement.

        In a county that is always crying poverty, can’t afford to install street lights (but pays for an entire department in its bureaucracy dedicated to street lights), and insists on paying for not one, but two, pensions, this is one huge lot of expenses that just have to go.

        http://www.wichita.gov/Government/Departments/Planning/PlanningDocument/Appendix%20C%20-%20Planning%20Level%20Cost%20Estimator.pdf

        • Jeff Anderson

          Tammi said: “Save our tax money and improve our library system which we do want vs. striping our streets that we DO NOT WANT.”

          Again…there is NO cost to restriping the roads w/ bike lanes, sharrows or a double yellow. No cost.

          Don’t pivot to the cost of FCDOT’s staff.

          • Greg

            Your argument is false.

            The costs are real and needless. They should be eliminated. Period.

          • Jeff Anderson

            Huh? The costs of restriping are baked into the repaving. No funds are diverted from libraries or social services etc. None.

          • Greg

            No. That’s false. Read and educate yourself.

            The taxpayer dollars we waste on FCDOT and “sharrows” could be spent on schools, pensions, libraries or even filling the ever larger and ever more frequent potholes.

          • Jeff Anderson

            No FC tax dollar is spent on adding sharrows or bike lanes.

          • Greg

            WRONG!

          • Jeff Anderson

            Donald – is that you?

            Prove it. FCDOT said so at the meeting and countless others. If FC taxes are paying for the striping I’ll stand corrected. Even the Supervisors have said so. It’s a VDOT road/project and they lay the asphalt and the paint.

          • Greg

            Again with the pivoting.

            And, it’s all been proved. Read what we wrote and what many others have.

            But, in summary for those who haven’t followed along and in simple terms, it costs more to add lanes (and hold and publicize meetings, and pay for a dedicated bike program manager and a redundant DOT and more) and put roads on diets.

            Extra paint is but one of those many added extra costs and Fairfax County and other taxpayers fund every penny of those costs.

          • Jeff Anderson

            These public meeting costs are also bringing some issues that are not related to ‘bike lanes.’ The other Reston meeting highlight a stop line that was not well place, a needed left/right turn lane at TwinBranches, some cross walks etc.

            The cost of the bike program (and ped program) is but pennies on the dollar compared to the road program. It more than covers it’s expense.

            And VDOT pays for the entire re-paving program. No dollars are taken from FC coffers. How is FC redundant? How did you ‘prove’ it?

  • Bernie Supporter

    Wish I had taken video of the biker who just blew by a Stop sign this morning.

    Seems like all bikers expect drivers to obey the traffic laws but quite a few don’t think these laws apply to them. There reasoning appears to be: A car can kill me, my bike can’t kill you. Well, maybe they’re right … but I know at least two pedestrians who were hit by bikes, and both suffered decades of pain because of it. This bike scheme is as stupid as it sounds.

    • Chuck Morningwood

      I think you give the average biker too much credit. I think that it’s far more simplistic, “If I stop my bike, I lose time and I have to work that much harder to get back up to speed. The chances of getting hit are small, but the inconvenience of stopping are huge.”

      A perfect example. I took the kids for a ride today along the W&OD. We were stopped at Van Buren/Monroe Street, waiting for the crosswalk sign to change although car traffic was at a stand still. Some guy (on roller blades) blew past us, saying “Are you guys taking a break ?!?”

      • Bernie Supporter

        I’ve always been particularly fond of the cyclists who must think they live in London because they drive on the wrong side of the road. Pedestrians NEVER see them coming.

    • Jeff Anderson

      Sadly a so called Bernie Supporter is following 45’s twitter lead here. Come to the meeting and speak up there vs troll on Reston Now.

      I’ll just say this – cyclists do what they do because they are vulnerable. They know the risk. They accept the risk. But they act in saving their own lives not because I have to work harder to get up to speed. As has been said countless times before – motorists do as much if not more than cyclists. Speeding, blowing thru yellow lights, rolling stop signs, ignoring right on red, not yielding to pedestrians in cross walks, driving in a SOV in HOV lanes, changing lanes w/o signaling. And of course the real dangers of DWI or texting while driving.

      Your position is well know and it’s getting old.

      • Bernie Supporter

        Another genius. Most drivers come to a COMPLETE stop at stop signs, have NEVER ran a red light in their life, and have NEVER driven on the wrong side of the road. But I have never met a biker yet who has consistently abided the rules of the road. (although they will when they have children on bikes riding directly behind them.)

        My position IS old. So is the gender pay gap but that doesn’t make it any less true. And as for purposely disobeying the rules of the law to “save their own lives,” you can pedal that nonsense elsewhere. Because I don’t give a …

        • Jeff Anderson

          Exactly- you don’t give a …… Step up and fix the issues that are killing people on our streets.

          Most drivers come to a complete stop. Where do you live Pleasantville?

          • Bernie Supporter

            No, but Reston was a close second… until a whole lot of people like you — who think YOUR special interests outweighs the needs of MOST folks — step up to “fix” issues that aren’t broken.

          • Jeff Anderson

            I would imagine Pleasantville would have plenty of people on bikes and bike lanes.

            We all have our crosses to bare. Bikes are not so bad. I mean who doesn’t like a bike. Wait….don’t answer that.

          • Bernie Supporter

            Okay. That was funny. Points for that one. 🙂

      • LisaR

        We can predict his arguments. John’s too. They just sound like a broken record.

        • Greg

          So do you.

        • Mike M

          And they are yet to be refuted. The laws of physics are a lot like a broken record. Whump!

          Can I get points for consistency? Or shall I change my views from time to time to keep things more aligned with your attention span? 😉

    • LisaR

      Oh the world is coming to an end!!!!! Yet today in Reston, not a single driver rolled a stop sign? Rolled through a right on red? Disobeyed a no-right-on-red? Exceeded the speed limit? Those non-spandex-wearing driving scofflaws! Using your terrible argument, how many people do you know that survived a collision with a car while they were walking or biking? Probably none. These changes are about lowering speed limits and making roads safer for everyone. Including John’s “spandex bandits”, who also pay taxes. Move on to your next tired argument please, so I can shoot that down too.

      • Bernie Supporter

        This argument makes no sense. Your are comparing bike riders with car drivers who DON’T follow traffic rules. Those drivers put my life at risk, too, and I’m always thrilled when I see a cop nail them.

  • Nyla J.

    I’m sick of seeing cars a littering the Glade Dr curbs. Bye .

  • Jeff Anderson

    BTW….Have you actually bothered to ask cyclists what they want on Glade vs. jump to the conclusion we want lanes and no parking? Nope…just jump to a conclusion. Way to go !!!

    Would be nice to hear you all complain about texting while driving….and then DO SOMETHING about it.

    • Greg

      Don’t pivot to texting and driving.

      • Jeff Anderson

        Nice try but your brethren raise the issues of motorist obeying laws and why not drive instead of bike and use the car infrastructure. As such texting while driving is relevant.

        Why the hate dude?

        • Greg

          No hate here, “dude.”

          And, once again, take your own advice and don’t pivot.

          • Jeff Anderson

            The entire thread is a pivot. It’s about bike lanes being added or not and resident concerns. Your brethren turned it into bike hate. Can’t let that stand.

          • Bernie Supporter

            I doubt anyone “hates” bikes. They hate bikers. And only the ones who want to take away traffic lanes from cars, or think that the rules of the road don’t apply to them. This is not a pivot. This is the issue you’re discussing.

          • Jeff Anderson

            Hey Guy Fawkes…..

            Your first comment on this thread was “Wish I had taken video of the biker who just blew by a Stop sign this morning.”

            Just how does that related to bike lanes or sharrows?

          • Greg

            Again with your pivots. It’s no mystery who first pivoted to “bike hate.”

            Bikes are fine; it’s their operators who aren’t always fine.

          • Jeff Anderson

            So I was right…there is hate. Or at the very least animosity.

            I love cars. Came home when born in a Classic 1960 Chevy Impala…you know w/ the horizontal fins. I love cars. It’s their operators who aren’t always ‘fine’.

        • Mike M

          I’ll own hate for texting and driving. It is out of control. I am shocked that the insurance companies are only now getting mobilized on the matter. It is OUT OF CONTROL.

          Back to the matter at hand. . .

          • Jeff Anderson

            So if they text and drive and hit your relative whose riding their bike to work on a side street, off peak, 35mph zone- whose fault. Your relative is riding on the street because they don’t own a car and there is no trail system.

          • Mike M

            The trail system I Reston is extensive. My relatives should be smart enough not to ride on the road where so many are texting.

            By the way, I see more bike driving than car driving as a percentage of operators. But there was a case in Loudoun a couple of months ago where a guy who was shown to be texting at the moment of impact, struck an 80-something bicyclist and killed him. He was found not criminally liable.

            My relatives are not immune to the laws of physics,

          • Jeff Anderson

            Pivot Mike. You are not your relatives. They have personal choice. 8^)

            The Loudon Senior was killed in a crosswalk – walking his bike. The drive was charged w/ reckless. I don’t know more than that. He was a pedestrian not a cyclist when killed. Unnecessary.

          • Mike M

            I know. The driver was found NOT GUILTY. The biker is dead. Would have been just as dead on his bike.

          • Jeff Anderson

            That’s conjecture and why label him as a biker. Helps your argument. If you are going to present facts present them all. I couldn’t find the outcome of the driver, but I’ll take your word for it given how these cases usually go…..

            Your example is one of classic stupid human tricks not bicycling. It’s Darwin’s law in action. They just happen to be on bikes.

          • Mike M

            Not sure if you are blaming the guy walking his bike who was struck by a driver known to be texting. I know the outcome of the case.

          • Jeff Anderson

            Huh re; blaming? You make no sense.

            Outcome – is there a link. I’m always looking to get smart on these things.

          • Mike M

            I know the family. But I am sure there are.

      • LisaR

        Don’t pivot to “bikers run stop signs”. It’s not relevant. It’s a worn out argument. Distracted driving is relevant. Bike lanes, signs, and bike-related road safety improvements are all needed to ensure drivers are aware of cyclists. You know, for when they are texting and driving.

        • Greg

          Don’t pivot. It’s distracting, lisa.

    • Bernie Supporter

      People who get caught texting while driving should be ticketed as if they were a DUI, since texting causes as many accidents as alcohol, if not more. Still don’t want to be to driving next to a bike.

      • LisaR

        The cyclists don’t want to be riding next to you while you drive. Too bad the law isn’t on your side.

      • Jeff Anderson

        And have you complained to your VA Delegate to sponsor legislation to ban the use of hand held devices?

        • Bernie Supporter

          Yeah. Actually, I have. I am far more terrified when I look in my rearview mirror and see a moron behind me texting while they drive than I am of seeing a bicycle.

  • Jeff Anderson

    Who bike non-likers 8^) want to go on a ride around Reston with me?

    • Jeff Anderson

      Alas – no takers.

      • Greg

        Can’t imagine why…

        • Jeff Anderson

          Me neither. Scared?

          • Mike M

            So, you fancy your riding a something of a dare devil activity. Not surprised. It is! That’s pretty much been my point.

          • Jeff Anderson

            Scared of me not cars.

          • Jeff Anderson

            Scared of me not cars. 8^o

  • Bruce Wright

    This seems like a reasonable proposal from the county; create space for bicyclists during repaving that will incur very little extra cost and probably make the road safer for everyone. Not sure what the controversy is about. Almost on one parks on the road now, and if some parking is removed I doubt it would impact those few people who park or store there cars on that public road. Parking on one side with bike lanes on both sides would be a good compromise.

    Interesting that the first comment is so anti-bike. The “0.4% of all trips” statistic cited really isn’t true. That is the approximate percent of people commuting to work using a bike as their primary mode of travel. According to the US Census, people are asked their primary mode of commuting to work. If people use more than one mode, the one use for the longest distance is their primary mode. So all the people who bike to Wiehle Metro and park in the crowded bike rooms and then take a train are not counted. All the recreational people you see on the W&OD Trail in the evening and on the weekend are not counted, nor are those “spandex bandits” that are mentioned in that first comment. The real mode share number is much greater than 0.4% and would be higher if our roads had dedicated bike facilities.

    • Abel

      Exactly how unsafe is Glade to Bicyclists? Have there been bike related accidents or injuries to them?

      • Jeff Anderson

        It’s paint on the road. How is that so inconvenient?

    • LisaR

      You’re using logic and reasonable facts to try to win over closed-minded NIMBYs. They will never be happy until Glade is a 6-lane road with a 55mph speed limit, which they will exceed while texting and driving.

      • Mike M

        NIMBY – someone who wants to stop the government from spending for my special interest?

        • Jeff Anderson

          Fairfax County passed a Bicycle Master Plan. I’m not sure that’s a special interest. It’s part of the Comp plan.

          • Mike M

            Yes, designed by and approved for special interest.

          • Jeff Anderson

            Call it what you want but if the Supervisors didn’t want it – it wasn’t gonna pass. You had a chance…did you weigh in? If so then nice job John Q Public. And it’s not something unique to Fairfax.

            Seriously….you need to find a new hobby than getting bikes off the road.

          • Mike M

            Seriously, you are waaay into biking.

          • Jeff Anderson

            Healthier than trolling RestonNow.

          • Mike M

            My comments are on a variety of pubs that use Disqus.

          • Mike M

            Jeff, the topic was biking and bike lanes. Try to stay focused. Or was this your attempt to withdraw behind an ad hominem smoke screen, hoping no one would notice that you never made a valid argument for the lanes, nor did you refute the point against it. In fact, you pretty much damaged your own case.

          • Jeff Anderson

            I swear I said that a few days ago.

            You haven’t offered a reason not to install lanes.

          • Greg

            Yes, it’s a special interest. We are certain and sure.

          • Jeff Anderson

            I didn’t know a $6.2 billion industry is a special interest group

          • Greg

            There are many things you don’t know, get wrong, misstate and misquote. Most, in fact.

            For example: There are 158 comments here, not 7500 as you stated.

          • Jeff Anderson

            WRONG. 8^0

            Your pal MM has made naer 7500 comments on RestonNow. So yeah…there is that.

          • Greg

            Believe all your alternative facts; no one else does.

          • Jeff Anderson

            Go for a bike ride on your trails or my roads. You will feel better.

        • LisaR

          You’d rather be a troll online rather enter into a constructive discussion. Did you have anything to add at the public meetings or did you just complain like you do here?

    • Mike M

      So, you bike, so it’s reasonable. And you know the real numbers.

  • Elise

    This is sad. My neighbors in Reston are so intolerant about something that makes me happy and healthy, they pick on the clothes that I wear. They pick on my colleagues who are also enjoying the sport. They threaten me by driving in a distracted manner. And they miss the point of the proposed changes. These changes, which will come at no cost to the county tax payers, will slow down drivers. Slower moving cars are safer for everyone. If I’m hit at 25mph, I’ll likely survive. However my neighbors want me to be hit at 45mph, which means no matter what I’m wearing, my family doesn’t get to see me come home. Why is my life worth less than John Farrell’s or the Bernie person’s or anyone elses? This all makes me sad and ashamed to share the neighborhood with you.

    • Greg

      You can always move to Herndon where very little ever changes and the highest speed is 35 MPH.

      And, yes, the changes will come at a cost to county (and other) taxpayers. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, that government does that comes at no cost.

      • Jeff Anderson

        What costs are concerning to you? A narrower road to make you slow down and be late by 30 secs? There are far greater costs you should be worried about.

        • Greg

          The very same costs we have proven exist many times and yet you still pretend do not exist.

          • Jeff Anderson

            Greg – you’ve proven nothing. You guys are ratcheting this up to why is the County supporting a multi-model transportation plan of which bikes is the one part you don’t like. Yet the costs in allowing large developments and the associated costs of congestion etc is overlooked as acceptable. VDOT and FCDOT overlap but they are far from redundant. Many a project FCDOT undertakes is avoided by VDOT because they have a state to worry about vs a neighborhood. If it was VDOT you’d say it overlaps w/ USDOT. Really…it’s a bike lane. Doubt it will effect your daily life.

          • Greg

            You don’t read the facts we’ve presented and invent things that aren’t true. Your problem; not mine.

            For example: I never said I don’t like bikes or bikers or that I like developments and the “associated costs of development” (whatever those are).

            But the costs of a bike lane and all the many other things this broke county wastes money on affect (not effect — again!) my daily life.

          • Jeff Anderson

            I’ve read your facts. I understand you all want bikes to be off the roads and no monies spent in infrastructure and overhead. Your costs are the entire program. Guess what – it’s not going away. No matter how many times you mention costs in comments or speak up at hearings, bikes are part of the solution. Again…I was addressing the specific costs of striping per another’s concern.

          • Greg

            Your “understanding” is, once again, dead WRONG!

            AGAIN — extra striping costs extra. Imagine that!

          • Jeff Anderson

            WRONG. It’s baked into repaving.

          • Greg

            Wrong. Extra paint costs extra. Very simple concept.

          • Jeff Anderson

            Pennies dude.

    • Mike M

      Why do you indulge in such dangerous behavior? Why do you insisted that behavior be protected at everyone else’s expense?

      • LisaR

        IT IS NOT DANGEROUS. You just don’t get it, do you?

  • Heather

    Very glad there is recognition that this road is extremely difficult for pedestrians to cross. Perhaps another option is to actually have sidewalks going to existing crosswalks. To cross from neighborhood/bus stop to Safeway one could cross at stoplight if there was a sidewalk in front of Ariake.

    • Mike M

      Excellent point. FFX County gave in a long time ago on this one. They did not want to foot the bill for sidewalks, but they also didn’t have the cojones to ask developers to pay for them. So, . . . unwalkable we tend to be here in FFX. I love it when a sidewalk suddenly comes to an inexplicable end. I call that a Fairfax ending.

      Fortunately, in Reston we have many miles of sidewalk AND bike trails..

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